Do You Think I'm Experiencing False Hypos?

[dogslife]

Hi @dogslife

Just a thought, but is your Thursday lunch lower fat than you eat at home?
Am asking because a low fat meal will digest quicker, release its carbs quicker, and then the bg will drop faster afterwards.
Also, are you a bit more active on Thursday afternoons? Maybe bustling round doing stuff with more walking and carrying (as volunteers are wont to do)? Those things may be contributing to your unusual readings.

Plus, of course, if you are low carb the rest of the time, your pancreas is chilled out and relaxing, only expecting to produce small amounts of insulin. Then your Thursday lunch surprises it, and it may be late releasing insulin and then a bit to keen when it catches up (known as The Last Meal Effect).

Just a couple of suggestions which may or may not feel appropriate.

Thanks Brunneria for your interesting thoughts. What you say makes a lot of sense to me. I think you may have solved my little question. Well done. I'd not heard of "The Last Meal Effect". I will google it. Always learning something new on this forum. Thanks again and best wishes for a good weekend.

 

[Brunneria]

Funnily enough, I had a google to try and provide you with some links about the Last Meal Effect. And had quite a lot of trouble. It used to be mentioned quite a lot here on the forum. And elsewhere on the net. But seems less mentioned now. It seems to have been swamped by references to a study suggesting ppl eat carbs late in the meal rather than the beginning.

I wonder if anyone else might have any handy links on last meal effect? @Bluetit1802 @Indy51 @bulkbiker @DCUKMod

I did come up with this interesting discussion on another forum. One of the posters had exactly your experience but with a glucose tolerance test.
https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/glucose-tolerance-test/

Also this, where they are calling it The Second Meal Effect
https://www.omicsonline.org/the-sec...ce-on-glycemia-2161-0509.1000108.php?aid=4874

 

[DCUKMod]

Funnily enough, I had a google to try and provide you with some links about the Last Meal Effect. And had quite a lot of trouble. It used to be mentioned quite a lot here on the forum. And elsewhere on the net. But seems less mentioned now. It seems to have been swamped by references to a study suggesting ppl eat carbs late in the meal rather than the beginning.

I wonder if anyone else might have any handy links on last meal effect? @Bluetit1802 @Indy51 @bulkbiker @DCUKMod

I did come up with this interesting discussion on another forum. One of the posters had exactly your experience but with a glucose tolerance test.
https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/glucose-tolerance-test/

Also this, where they are calling it The Second Meal Effect
https://www.omicsonline.org/the-sec...ce-on-glycemia-2161-0509.1000108.php?aid=4874

Sorry, @Brunneria - when talking about last meal effect, I usually just whitter on descriptively. (Others would cacll it waffling on!) Ahem.

One other thing I would wonder about @dogslife is whether any of the ingredients in your lunch changed at all? I'm thinking simple things like gravy mix or thickeners, which can be a bit rogue, if you happen to be a bit sensitive to something in them.

That 12.1 seems uncomfortably high, but I think it would likely be very helpful if you could find the few minutes to test a few times more - whether or not you have hypo symptoms, dogslife. In this weather, if you have been bustling around, very busy, as you describe, that you don't drink enough in the run up to and throughout the lunch club. Dehydration (on of my personal hobby horses, I'm afraid!), can lead to higher blood sugar readings, but can also lead to some horrid symptoms in itself. By the time we feel thirst, we're often a bit dehydrated, so are already playing catch up.

Those are just my thoughts.

 

[dogslife]

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Funnily enough, I had a google to try and provide you with some links about the Last Meal Effect. And had quite a lot of trouble. It used to be mentioned quite a lot here on the forum. And elsewhere on the net. But seems less mentioned now. It seems to have been swamped by references to a study suggesting ppl eat carbs late in the meal rather than the beginning.

I wonder if anyone else might have any handy links on last meal effect? @Bluetit1802 @Indy51 @bulkbiker @DCUKMod

I did come up with this interesting discussion on another forum. One of the posters had exactly your experience but with a glucose tolerance test.
https://thebloodsugardiet.com/forums/topic/glucose-tolerance-test/

Also this, where they are calling it The Second Meal Effect
https://www.omicsonline.org/the-sec...ce-on-glycemia-2161-0509.1000108.php?aid=4874

Morning, Brunneria. I had the same problem when I searched under. "Last Meal Effect". Thanks for looking, anyway. I think for now I'll go with your theory of low fat content in the lunch and take a big chunk of cheese to eat whilst others are eating their desert.

 

[dogslife]

Sorry, @Brunneria - when talking about last meal effect, I usually just whitter on descriptively. (Others would cacll it waffling on!) Ahem.

One other thing I would wonder about @dogslife is whether any of the ingredients in your lunch changed at all? I'm thinking simple things like gravy mix or thickeners, which can be a bit rogue, if you happen to be a bit sensitive to something in them.

That 12.1 seems uncomfortably high, but I think it would likely be very helpful if you could find the few minutes to test a few times more - whether or not you have hypo symptoms, dogslife. In this weather, if you have been bustling around, very busy, as you describe, that you don't drink enough in the run up to and throughout the lunch club. Dehydration (on of my personal hobby horses, I'm afraid!), can lead to higher blood sugar readings, but can also lead to some horrid symptoms in itself. By the time we feel thirst, we're often a bit dehydrated, so are already playing catch up.

Those are just my thoughts.

Thanks, DCUKMod. Next time I will drink more water and eat cheese with my meal in keeping with Brunneria's thoughts. What would we do without the kind and helpful people on this forum?