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i spoke to tena lady and upsy daisy and they say that most children only suffer from small accidents or are just in transition to tiolet training so it is rare that a child has full bladder regular accidents unless they are wheelchair bound or mentaly ill so they only provide the nappy type for high volumes as a carer would be the one doing the changing. i have said my daughter cannot be the only incontanant child without any other disabilities in the country that is able to and prefers to change herself. but the end answer is that there is no call for high volume pants for older children. i still reckon they must be out there somewhere but where.