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Although I seem to have hit a plateau it is far too early to say yet at two weeks whether this will last but I do hope so.
Although I seem to have hit a plateau it is far too early to say yet at two weeks whether this will last but I do hope so.I really don't have many thoughts about it! To me personally, my PFT is where I think I look well, feel well, and have good blood markers whilst eating more or less what I want, with the exception of carbs apart from potatoes. (I do eat spuds in small portions).
I believe I am spot on, and where my body likes me to be as I haven't gained or lost any weight since losing it all 3 years ago, other than the usual small fluctuations.
Although I seem to have hit a plateau it is far too early to say yet at two weeks whether this will last but I do hope so.
It's the carbohydrates.Does anyone think that it is only calories coming from carbs that make you fat? I have been getting this impression from some of the threads.
It's the carbohydrates.
You still need cafbs but no harm with reducing them but speak to a nutritionist before you take any drastic action.
All foods have a calorific value.
A calorie is a measurement used to calculate the energy of a given food.
Regards
Martin
I must admit that I've never heard of hyperinsulinaemia.
Thank you for that.This is the condition afflicting most Type 2s because, unlike T1s who don't produce any insulin, most Type 2s produce too much. Most T2s are insulin resistant, therefore because the cells reject their insulin to a greater or lesser extent, the insulin can't push the glucose into the cells, so much of the glucose remains in the blood stream. In a frantic effort to clear this glucose, the pancreas secretes even more insulin, and then even more. The secret for T2s is to reduce the amount of circulating insulin, and the only way to do this is to reduce the amount of glucose by reducing carbs. We don't need carbs. Our livers produce sufficient glucose for the cells that need it (the brain and red blood cells mainly) Carbs = glucose = high levels of insulin = increased insulin resistance = higher levels of insulin.. High levels of circulating insulin cause as many health problems as high levels of glucose.
People do not tend to say when they do something different to LCHF because of getting a negative response or not very nice comments which has happened to some. Of course that should not happen and we should respect what ever people do without criticism
I'm only going to comment on the Hypoglycaemia part of your response. You definitely need carbs if you are having a hypo and this should be in soluble form and ifvyour next meal is more than an hour away it should be followed up with some slow acting carbs, bread fgor instance.
I must admit that I've never heard of hyperinsulinaemia.
Just to explain something further just in case some others aren't too sure. All foods have a calorific value (calories) for example and I'm not giving any calorific values for the following items as without searching this out I do not know but the foods I've chosen will clearly explain it.
100 grams in weight of lettuce and 100 grams in weight of potatoes.
Only one of these will cause you to gain weight if eaten in excess and that will be the potatoes.
Regards
Martin
I'm type 1 and been so for nearly 28yrs, now using a pump for just over a year.Hi again mate,
Glad we can all learn from each other beyond types.
I probably had more hypos in a week than you have in a month.
How you treat hypos is as individual as diverse as the number of endocrine conditions that you could possibly name. Treatment of hypoglycaemia is important and getting your blood glucose levels back up is so important to T1s and some T2s.
But with something as weird as I have and other hypoglycaemic conditions, the secret to not recurring episodes of Hypoglycaemia is not to hyper either before or after.
So the suggestion to use glucose, glucagon or high carbs is not the recommended treatment. A very low carb alternative, just to nudge your blood glucose levels back into normal range and a low carb small meal after fifteen minutes to maintain normal blood levels is the way to do it.
The trouble I had that every time i started going hypo, I would treat it as advised and I would rocket up into double figures which would create more excess insulin. I would hypo again, treat it, hyper then hypo. And what this would do to my blood levels, hyperinsulinaemia! Too much insulin, insulin resistance and also at times very high blood levels.
So after my hypo hell, I would never advise anyone unless it works for them to use high carbs or glucose as a treatment.
Best wishes.
By learning about others conditions, it can open the possibilities of trying something different, to the norm, which I have found out, is for us weirdos on here!
I recall one person who spent many hours a day at the gym but said he wished he had known about LowCarb as it would have been easier.
I also recall someone who kept to the NHS eat well plate but had a VERY high sugar intake before, so a low-fat diet was a lot fewer carbs then she was having before.
Otherwise every success story I recall with some combination of
- Low Carb / Reduced Carb / Very Low Carb
- Intermittent Fasting
- Newcastle Diet
- 8 Week Blood Suger Diet
Hi again mate,
Glad we can all learn from each other beyond types.
I probably had more hypos in a week than you have in a month.
How you treat hypos is as individual as diverse as the number of endocrine conditions that you could possibly name. Treatment of hypoglycaemia is important and getting your blood glucose levels back up is so important to T1s and some T2s.
But with something as weird as I have and other hypoglycaemic conditions, the secret to not recurring episodes of Hypoglycaemia is not to hyper either before or after.
So the suggestion to use glucose, glucagon or high carbs is not the recommended treatment. A very low carb alternative, just to nudge your blood glucose levels back into normal range and a low carb small meal after fifteen minutes to maintain normal blood levels is the way to do it.
The trouble I had that every time i started going hypo, I would treat it as advised and I would rocket up into double figures which would create more excess insulin. I would hypo again, treat it, hyper then hypo. And what this would do to my blood levels, hyperinsulinaemia! Too much insulin, insulin resistance and also at times very high blood levels.
So after my hypo hell, I would never advise anyone unless it works for them to use high carbs or glucose as a treatment.
Best wishes.
By learning about others conditions, it can open the possibilities of trying something different, to the norm, which I have found out, is for us weirdos on here!
I'm type 1 and been so for nearly 28yrs, now using a pump for just over a year.
Kind regards
Martin
So, not a lot involving chips? ******! I really miss them. If there is one thing that would make me fall off the lchf wagon its chips.
I asked because I have seen some posts about other ways ( not lchf) of bringing down a hbalc on a permanent basis, but have not seen any posts about how exactly its done. When dx I was told that t2d was progressive and my gp a few days ago told me I would be on increasing medication for the rest of my life. Then she noticed my latest hba1c of 39 and said the metformin was working well!
The lchf seems to be the only way that really does halt t2d. I really wish it wasnt. I want to eat chips. I dont want to go blind or lose my feet but I still want to eat chips. If a way comes out tomorrow that does the same job but without the lchf I would be on it like a shot. And I have no doubt that one day there will be another way, and we will all be saying what fools we were to believe this rubbish. But at the moment it seems the best we have.
In answer to the original question in this thread, I have lost over 30 kgs since june. Lchf, not counting calories, just carbs. I have been overweight/obese most of my adult life. So, for me, yes, its calories from carbs that made me fat.
Did I mention that I miss chips?
So, not a lot involving chips? ******! I really miss them. If there is one thing that would make me fall off the lchf wagon its chips.
I asked because I have seen some posts about other ways ( not lchf) of bringing down a hbalc on a permanent basis, but have not seen any posts about how exactly its done. When dx I was told that t2d was progressive and my gp a few days ago told me I would be on increasing medication for the rest of my life. Then she noticed my latest hba1c of 39 and said the metformin was working well!
The lchf seems to be the only way that really does halt t2d. I really wish it wasnt. I want to eat chips. I dont want to go blind or lose my feet but I still want to eat chips. If a way comes out tomorrow that does the same job but without the lchf I would be on it like a shot. And I have no doubt that one day there will be another way, and we will all be saying what fools we were to believe this rubbish. But at the moment it seems the best we have.
In answer to the original question in this thread, I have lost over 30 kgs since june. Lchf, not counting calories, just carbs. I have been overweight/obese most of my adult life. So, for me, yes, its calories from carbs that made me fat.
Did I mention that I miss chips?
Sounds like you have had and have still got alot to deal with.My condition is called 'Late Reactive Hypoglycaemia'
I was diagnosed four years ago.
I have been in ketosis for three of those years.
I was misdiagnosed T2 eight years ago and prediabetic sixteen years ago.
Last hypo, my last eOGTT in hospital. I've had five glucose tests
I have had many tests for intolerance and allergies to food.
I have intolerance to potatoes, wheat, grains, lactose, anything above three gms of carbs. Literally anything with ose at the end of the word!
I use intermittent fasting and only eat when I want and its not much.
I have lost five stone because, I don't eat carbs and fast!
High circulating insulin causes visceral fat. Causes hyperinsulinaemia.
I was in such bad health, especially my organs, now perfectly healthy!
Best wishes
That all sounds really complicated! How long did it take you to get to grips with it all?
Sounds like you have had and have still got alot to deal with.
Kind regards
Martin
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