W.olly said:AMBrennan said:And how do you know this without testing? By definition, you can't know if you don't know when you're going low [i.e. to show that you have hypo unawareness a single unnoticed hypo is sufficient; to show that you don't have hypo unawareness you'd need weeks of continuous BG measurements]On the taking a BG reading before you drive,[...]I always know when i am going low on the BG
I know when my BG gets to around 3.5 by the feeling i get, not light headed as such or anything that holds me back from anything, when in this situation i have a biscuit or what ever i am carrying and 10 mins and all is good. I know my levels as i check them when this happens on occasions and its always the same, the worst are at night but thats few and far between. My Hab1c is 8, a bit high yes.
Still dont understand why if a night time hypo and you loose your licence :?
Please excuse me for not having a lot of sympathy for you losing a license here.I lost my driving licence for about 1 year because I had a hypo at the wheel, but the real truth about that was, I was working out in the middle of now where, I felt a hypo coming on & I took the decision to get in to my car & drive
That's arguably not true since T2s unable to control their condition with other medication are also insulin dependant. In any case, you misread that passage as well since it applies to anyone taking insulin i.e. diabetes medication most likely to cause hypos ( In healthy people, insulin production is decreased when e.g. exercising; drugs lowering insulin resistance will affect this to a lesser degree than a long acting insulin that's fixed for 24h)This new driving rules clearly say that its for "Insulin Dependant" diabetics...& as we all know ONLY type one diabetics are insulin dependant
Please excuse me for not having a lot of sympathy for you losing a license here.
jimmytwoshoes said:As as for you say that some type 2 diabetics are insulin dependant - NO they are not! The definition of "Insulin dependancy" is that without insulin a person will die within days!
Well, no. Look at the NICE guidelines to see that insulin is used after 1st, 2nd and 3rd line (non-insulin) treatments fail. Note that I cunningly included "arguably" in my earlier post since I'd argue that a patient unable to achieve adequate control without insulin does depend on insulin. Regardless of who's right here, though, the hypo restrictions are for people taking insulin, not people dependent on insulin.Type 2 diabetics use insulin these day because it give them much better & easier control than say a drug like Metformin,
jimmytwoshoes said:When I was about 22, I lost my driving licence for about 1 year because I had a hypo at the wheel, but the real truth about that was, I was working out in the middle of now where, I felt a hypo coming on & I took the decision to get in to my car & drive the few mile to a near by petrol station to get some food. Unfortunately I didn’t make it & woke up in casualty, unhurt!
jimmytwoshoes said:Ridiculous statement? What’s ridiculous about it?
How many type 2 diabetics injected insulin 20 years ago?
Answer: none! It is only in more recent times (the last 10 - 15 years id guestimate it at) that type 2 diabetics have began using insulin!
jimmytwoshoes said:I’m far from being any kind of diabetes expert, but i know what i know is fact!
Whilst that may well be true it doesn't actually address the point jimmytwoshoes made (effectiveness does not necessarily imply general availability); I wouldn't be surprised if he was correct (if only because we have much more rigorous T2 screening today)Insulin is the oldest and the most effective treatment to control glucose levels in diabetic patients
jimmytwoshoes said:Ridiculous statement? What’s ridiculous about it?
How many type 2 diabetics injected insulin 20 years ago?
jimmytwoshoes said:TYPE2 DIABETES IS NOT INSULIN DEPENDANT! Lol
That's not exactly true, which you would have realised if you had actually read the article I linked to. But you are right in that I did say that taking doses massively exceeding the recommended daily dose may not be safe, and that there is no evidence for some of the claims the Omega-3 shills are making.In particular AMBrennan who is now trying to tell me, over on another posting in this forum, that Omega 3 fish has zero benefits of health to anyone haha that is truly is pathetic!
WHO 1999It is recommended that the terms "insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus" and "non-insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus" and their acronyms "IDDM" and "NIDDM" no longer be used. These terms have been confusing and frequently resulted in patients being classified based on treatment rather than on pathogenesis.
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