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UOTE="Sid Bonkers, post: 650778, member: 19121"]er, what you said was "are you really as bonkers as to suggest that two night time hypos warrant your license being taking away?" which is strange really as I never said anything of the sort.

What I actually said and the point I was making was: "If you withhold any information from the DVLA which later comes to light you can be prosecuted and you will at best be driving without insurance as it is a requirement of your insurance to notify the DVLA of any medical condition that may affect your driving."

And the only opinion I offered was that I thought it wrong to withhold information from the DVLC, an opinion I still hold 16 months later. Which is why I find your posts rather odd to say the least.

Sorry but I dont make the rules I was just stating what they are.[/QUOTE]

Exactly correct - plus you can be liable to a fine also after prosecution .
My own DSN said she and my GP can report any diabetic to have had more than 2 hypos
needing another persons or medics assistance whilst still driving a vehicle .

So if you don't report this in yourself - either your GP or DSN can do .
 
gmv8 said:
No - he was registering his own personal opinion as well as conveying the facts - "So the chances are you would be caught out hopefully.". My point, that both yourself and JaneWatt have now completely obscured, is that it is totally unfair that diabetics should be banned from driving for two night time hypos, which has nothing to do with driving. It will just get worse if this is allowed to continue. Now whenever I go into a Doctor with an illness, my driving license is brought up before we actually get to sorting out my malady !? If you believe that banning diabetics for two night time hypos is fair, as Sid Bonkers seems to, and are willing to support it, with even the moderators portraying the context of my message incorrectly, then I don't really think that this forum is in the best interests of diabetics.
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Please do not attack members or the moderators .
Take a look at our forum rules on these matters .
 
Sorry.. I disagree.

From my personal experience only and going back to posts from me in July 2010....

I used to have too many night hypo's. In 25 years I needed (I reckon) about 6 assistances from hubby for bad ones. Just 6, NOT 2 a year. So alarminglingly lower than DVLA regs.
These I believe were an alarm bell warning that I was coming up to sh*t... And sure enough 4 years ago many members will remember my postings regarding a driving incident.

The forms have changed. Night hypo's do not impact on driving with dvla.

I went through sh*t that I hope that others will learn from. However my honest experiences tell me that my night hypo assistances were a factor in what happened to me....

100% honesty... night hypo help or assitance is not good. I think it does impact on day recognition of hypo's.

4 years after having pump I have not had one single night hypo needing help. I have had 1 day one from my own stupidity....and in all honesty my hypo awareness is improved from the times that I had night hypos and the helps...
 
anna29 said:
Please do not attack members or the moderators .
Take a look at our forum rules on these matters .
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I am not attacking anybody if you look at the context of all my posts, I am simply trying to get the point across that banning someone from the road for two night time hypos in a year makes no sense, as you do not sleep when you drive, and you also have no idea of your blood sugar levels when asleep - the events are completely unrelated, I can see why it's so difficult to get this point across to anybody in authority, considering the responses I've had on this forum. I have made good reasons for not banning someone for two night time hypos - if you think someone should be banned, then maybe you should put forward your reasons. In none of my posts am I disputing what the law is, I am saying that it makes no sense. A law made with no debate or reason is akin to dictatorship.
 
donnellysdogs said:
Sorry.. I disagree.

From my personal experience only and going back to posts from me in July 2010....

I used to have too many night hypo's. In 25 years I needed (I reckon) about 6 assistances from hubby for bad ones. Just 6, NOT 2 a year. So alarminglingly lower than DVLA regs.
These I believe were an alarm bell warning that I was coming up to sh*t... And sure enough 4 years ago many members will remember my postings regarding a driving incident.

The forms have changed. Night hypo's do not impact on driving with dvla.

I went through sh*t that I hope that others will learn from. However my honest experiences tell me that my night hypo assistances were a factor in what happened to me....

100% honesty... night hypo help or assitance is not good. I think it does impact on day recognition of hypo's.

4 years after having pump I have not had one single night hypo needing help. I have had 1 day one from my own stupidity....and in all honesty my hypo awareness is improved from the times that I had night hypos and the helps...
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That's fine if they've changed - I wasn't aware that they had.... I can't afford to have night time hypos as I live on my own now, but when I had the occasional hypo when when I didn't, I always knew when I was low when not asleep.
 
gmv8 said:
I am not attacking anybody if you look at the context of all my posts, I am simply trying to get the point across that banning someone from the road for two night time hypos in a year makes no sense, as you do not sleep when you drive, and you also have no idea of your blood sugar levels when asleep - the events are completely unrelated, I can see why it's so difficult to get this point across to anybody in authority, considering the responses I've had on this forum. I have made good reasons for not banning someone for two night time hypos - if you think someone should be banned, then maybe you should put forward your reasons. In none of my posts am I disputing what the law is, I am saying that it makes no sense. A law made with no debate or reason is akin to dictatorship.
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If you feel this strongly about it all .
You can and should lobby this with your nearest MP ?
Best place to start to change a fixed law .

Petition possibly ?
Enough signatures achieved then it can hit No.10 table for further debate .
 
Hi I have to renew my driving license every three years with doctors address for them to check I have gave correct info on my health. Pain but
 
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I knew when low, but only by the skin off my teeth!!! My driving incident proved that 4 years ago.
I was treating myself at this incident diring the daytime, but I, in all honesty am significantly better at night time hypo's now.
Hubby never even knows, wheras previous to 4 years ago I would wake up with in a sweat or my gorgeous hypo alert night time dog getting under the duvet or hubby would nudge me and say "do a test".
Now, I totally aware at night hypo's. No sweats, and unfortunately my girlie no longer alive. Hubby never knows. Daytime recognition never in doubt.

I 100% believe night hypo's do impact on awareness for days. Only from my experience though and I am only one from millions..
 
Am sure I seen article on DVLA web site about only have to renew if something has changed,which makes sense to me.
 
David1974 said:
Am sure I seen article on DVLA web site about only have to renew if something has changed,which makes sense to me.
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That may be for type 2's not on insulin or hypo inducing drugs... But no..... All hypo liable (from meds) diabetics MUST renew every 3 year currently.
 
donnellysdogs said:
That may be for type 2's not on insulin or hypo inducing drugs... But no..... All hypo liable (from meds) diabetics MUST renew every 3 year currently.
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And this is, I gather being extended to 10 years, just not sure of the start date.
 
Alanp35 said:
And this is, I gather being extended to 10 years, just not sure of the start date.
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May be 5 or 10 years.. Date and details are still very quiet.i keep looking as my licence due for renewal next year.
 
Alanp35 said:
And this is, I gather being extended to 10 years, just not sure of the start date.
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Not to sure of the finer details Alan, but from what I understood licences can be issued for up to 10 years and obviously you still have to report any assisted hypos and retinopathy that needs laser treatment (both eyes) I did read somewhere that the new potential 10 year licence will be issued around April next year.
 
donnellysdogs said:
That may be for type 2's not on insulin or hypo inducing drugs... But no..... All hypo liable (from meds) diabetics MUST renew every 3 year currently.
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Weird that!
When I went from insulin to gliclazide, my licence went from 3 years to normal, unrestricted.
 
No need to inform DVLA if controlled by Gliclazide unless you experience bad hypos. They are only concerned with insulin users, which again is a little unfair but hey ho.
 
The law is there to safeguard everyone on the road, as a type 1 I have no qualms about the driving laws with regards to
CarbsRok said:
Not to sure of the finer details Alan, but from what I understood licences can be issued for up to 10 years and obviously you still have to report any assisted hypos and retinopathy that needs laser treatment (both eyes) I did read somewhere that the new potential 10 year licence will be issued around April next year.
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Wonder how many will actually get issued with a 10 year licence, I would say anyone with a previous history of assisted hypo's, retinopathy etc will still only be issued with a 1,2 or 3 year licence.
 
I have recently had to begin insulin treatment for LADA and have just sent off my DIAB1 form. Along with this form I have also sent a complaint letter regarding the discrimination against type 1 diabetics as opposed to type 2 diabetics. I am all for road safety but sulphonylurea tablets that are commonly used in high doses by type 2 diabetics can also cause hypos and so therefore mean that they are also a risk on the roads and yet they do not have to declare this or have a restricted license. It is complete discrimination and hopefully, before long, anyone with a hypo risk will have to have a restricted license, not just ones using insulin.
 
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