DT2 newly diagnosed, Hashimotos thyroiditis for 35 years

[Jewiemax]

Hi , I have hypothyroidism & recently diagnosed with T2D. I tried a low carb diet over this Summer but was told to stop by my GP as it triggered hypothyroidism despite medication for this which I have had for years. Still watching carbs and keeping them at moderate portions. Also walk nearly every day and swim regularly. Bit stunned as I don't eat huge portions, in fact hubby eats more than me and doesn't have any health problems. Have been told that my T2D is connected to my autoimmune hypothyroidism. Have been cutting down on sweet treats () so hoping next blood test shows a decrease in blood sugars

 

[Jewiemax]

Meant to ask- does anyone get tingling in the mouth and tongue? Wondered if connected to sugar fluctuations

 

[Jewiemax]

In what way do carbs help with the conversion of thyroid hormones? Never heard that one before.

Why Thyroid Disease and Diabetes May Occur Together

Thyroid disease affects blood sugar levels, which increases the risk of diabetes. Learn more about the connection here.

www.verywellhealth.com

 

[Goonergal]

Why Thyroid Disease and Diabetes May Occur Together

Thyroid disease affects blood sugar levels, which increases the risk of diabetes. Learn more about the connection here.

www.verywellhealth.com

I don’t want to derail this thread which is about dried fruit, but that article would indicate the efficacy of low carb for someone with diabetes and hypo-thyroidism. It doesn’t say anything about the helpfulness of carbs for converting thyroid hormones.

 

[Jewiemax]

I am following the advice of my GP. I could Google to find articles etc but you can also look to find evidence if you need to. I am newly diagnosed with T2D & trying to learn about how one condition impacts on the other in addition to doing all I can to reverse the high blood sugars. It was my GP that said this about Hashimotos autoimmune thyroiditis

 

[Jewiemax]

I am following the advice of my GP. I could Google to find articles etc but you can also look to find evidence if you need to. I am newly diagnosed with T2D & trying to learn about how one condition impacts on the other in addition to doing all I can to reverse the high blood sugars. It was my GP that said this about Hashimotos autoimmune thyroiditis

 

[Resurgam]

I am following the advice of my GP. I could Google to find articles etc but you can also look to find evidence if you need to. I am newly diagnosed with T2D & trying to learn about how one condition impacts on the other in addition to doing all I can to reverse the high blood sugars. It was my GP that said this about Hashimotos autoimmune thyroiditis

Your GP would not be the first to get it wrong - we might require glucose in our blood but that is not the same thing as requiring carbohydrate in our diet.
There are no essential carbohydrates.

 

[Jewiemax]

I wonder why I started to get hypothyroid symptoms on the low carb diet then?

 

[Jewiemax]

I tried a low carb diet but GP told me to stop because I started to feel hypothyroid. Only did 8 weeks (50g of carbs per day). Need to look into this way more to learn about it all. Would like to know about the experience of others with both of these conditions, thanks. Am exercising more, (swimming and walking regularly) and still watching carb portions. Would like to know what others are doing to try and manage without medication.

 

[Liam E]

Daily carbs zero!? My GP specifically told me to stop restricting carbs because it made my Hashimotos thyroiditis worse and I was becoming hypo. We need carbs when hypothyroid otherwise we can't convert thyroid hormones.

As with every other human being the daily requirement for carbs is exactly zero.

Now if you are on a medication that lowers blood sugar that would need to be carefully monitored moving to a very low carb or carb free diet, but that is very different to you must not do it.

If you have T2D and you doctor has told you not to restrict carbs I strongly suggest looking for a new doctor.

In the mean time I'd recommend popping over to youtube and looking Dr Ken Berry's channel. His wife who is a regular on the channel has Hashimotos and they discuss the interaction with that and a very low carb diet.

 

[Liam E]

Why Thyroid Disease and Diabetes May Occur Together

Thyroid disease affects blood sugar levels, which increases the risk of diabetes. Learn more about the connection here.

www.verywellhealth.com

I think you have misunderstood what that article says. It says excess insulin can lead to hypos in someone with hypothyroidism.

That is true. But ask yourself why they would have excess insulin? The excess insulin would be from eating too much carbohydrate.

It takes a very small amount of carbohydrate to reverse a hypo if you every do get in that situation. 3 or 4 grapes or one bit of a banana is plenty. All the blood in your body should only have about 1 teaspoon of sugar in it.

 

[Jewiemax]

As with every other human being the daily requirement for carbs is exactly zero.

Now if you are on a medication that lowers blood sugar that would need to be carefully monitored moving to a very low carb or carb free diet, but that is very different to you must not do it.

If you have T2D and you doctor has told you not to restrict carbs I strongly suggest looking for a new doctor.

In the mean time I'd recommend popping over to youtube and looking Dr Ken Berry's channel. His wife who is a regular on the channel has Hashimotos and they discuss the interaction with that and a very low carb diet.

Thanks, will have a look

 

[bulkbiker]

I am following the advice of my GP.

I'm afraid that a lot of us have discovered that doing so might not be the best thing for our health.

 

[Jewiemax]

As with every other human being the daily requirement for carbs is exactly zero.

Now if you are on a medication that lowers blood sugar that would need to be carefully monitored moving to a very low carb or carb free diet, but that is very different to you must not do it.

If you have T2D and you doctor has told you not to restrict carbs I strongly suggest looking for a new doctor.

In the mean time I'd recommend popping over to youtube and looking Dr Ken Berry's channel. His wife who is a regular on the channel has Hashimotos and they discuss the interaction with that and a very low carb diet.

I am not on medication for diabetes

I don’t want to derail this thread which is about dried fruit, but that article would indicate the efficacy of low carb for someone with diabetes and hypo-thyroidism. It doesn’t say anything about the helpfulness of carbs for converting thyroid hormones.

Hi found this that I had saved a few days ago https://www.thyroid.org/patient-thyroid-information/ct-for-patients/february-2016/vol-9-issue-2-p-6/

 

[Goonergal]

Hi found this that I had saved a few days ago https://www.thyroid.org/patient-thyroid-information/ct-for-patients/february-2016/vol-9-issue-2-p-6/

I don’t doubt that there may be links between the two conditions, my question was about the role of carbohydrate in conversion of thyroid hormones. Entirely different issues. However, having started the derailment of this thread, I don’t want to continue it, but would happily engage on a new thread.

 

[Jewiemax]

Thank you Kaylee for helping, hope you can forgive a newbie ‍

 

[Jewiemax]

*Jaylee. (Predictive text altered my spelling as it posted)

 

[ianf0ster]

Hi @Jewiemax I have never heard of this, so please educate me about it.
Could it have been just the low carb adaptation process aka Keto flu?
What symptoms were you experiencing? Did they go away as soon as you increased carbs?
Did you test your Blood glucose levels to see if you really needed to go that low on carbs?

I am only 'flirting with keto' because my BG meter tells me that is the best range of carbs for me.
Many others are OK at around 100gms carbs per day, or even as high as 130gms per day.

 

[Jewiemax]

Hi there, I am still learning about blood glucose and carbs myself. I am going to ask my GP for way more info given that I have had a reply stating the human body only need the equivalent of one teaspoon of sugar. Put like that it really makes you think about so much pushed at us by the food industry. I have posted in order to try to learn more myself

 

[Jaylee]

Thank you Kaylee for helping, hope you can forgive a newbie ‍

No problem. Good luck with your new topic..

Jay.