Empty stomach?

[Deleted member 208503]

Well i proved it again. Glargine-- toujeo insulin is making me ravenous and interfering with the semaglutide. I didn't use any toujeo since only Fri after my previous post here on this thread. And already I don't feel that awful hunger. Plus my legs feel better. It was and always has caused leg pain and extreme huner. In the form of Lantus and basaglar and toujeo. It's not the semaglutide kicking in. I've been taking it for maybe a year or more. I've been on the highest dose too.
Sooooo now I need to decide do I continue off the toujeo or go back on and continue with no benefits to using it? Only getting side effects from it.

 

[Rachox]

Sooooo now I need to decide do I continue off the toujeo or go back on and continue with no benefits to using it? Only getting side effects from it.

This is something you need to discuss with your GP or diabetic nurse. Maybe there are alternatives you can try?

 

[Deleted member 208503]

This is something you need to discuss with your GP or diabetic nurse. Maybe there are alternatives you can try?

Already talked to them. I guess I just do what I want.

 

[The Balladeer]

Already talked to them. I guess I just do what I want.

I hate glargine in all of its forms from Lantus lows to the constant state of hunger and it doesn't cover 24-hour problem after problem

 

[Deleted member 208503]

Well i proved it again. Glargine-- toujeo insulin is making me ravenous and interfering with the semaglutide. I didn't use any toujeo since only Fri after my previous post here on this thread. And already I don't feel that awful hunger. Plus my legs feel better. It was and always has caused leg pain and extreme huner. In the form of Lantus and basaglar and toujeo. It's not the semaglutide kicking in. I've been taking it for maybe a year or more. I've been on the highest dose too.
Sooooo now I need to decide do I continue off the toujeo or go back on and continue with no benefits to using it? Only getting side effects from it.

I tried it again and I'm so hungry I'm mad. And my legs hurt bad again.
Dr help is useless. (He is in another city many miles away). Mine wants me to find another one. Not possible. 10000 to 16000 ppl where I live just got letters saying they will be losing their dr.
The er is under threat of closure. Nearest one 4 hours away. 3 walkins closed. Where am I supposed to go?
I'm on my own.
And the only control I have is what I eat. Other variables affecting bs are not under my control.
What should I do?

 

[Deleted member 208503]

I tried it again and I'm so hungry I'm mad. And my legs hurt bad again.
Dr help is useless. (He is in another city many miles away). Mine wants me to find another one. Not possible. 10000 to 16000 ppl where I live just got letters saying they will be losing their dr.
The er is under threat of closure. Nearest one 4 hours away. 3 walkins closed. Where am I supposed to go?
I'm on my own.
And the only control I have is what I eat. Other variables affecting bs are not under my control.
What should I do?

Well actually I don't have much control over my food choices either. I have to buy what's cheap even if it is the worst food for my bs. So I'm screwed really.

 

[The Balladeer]

Well actually I don't have much control over my food choices either. I have to buy what's cheap even if it is the worst food for my bs. So I'm screwed really.

maybe try an insulin pump seems suitable for your case

 

[Deleted member 208503]

What it feels like is that I want to eat piles and piles of food to make it stop. But it doesn't.
How can this insulin really be helpful for me?
Why doesn't my dr listen? It's an endo. Dr.
Is there nothing that can be done? Is this why?
The leg pain it causes I take Tylenol for sometimes. But I've always believed that it's silly or stupid to take a med than take an additional med for the side effects!! I know that sometimes ppl need to but in the case where all I'm getting is the side effects but no other effects I feel it's wrong. So along with my fear of bad complications it seems like I have no option but to eat very little.

 

[The Balladeer]

What it feels like is that I want to eat piles and piles of food to make it stop. But it doesn't.
How can this insulin really be helpful for me?
Why doesn't my dr listen? It's an endo. Dr.
Is there nothing that can be done? Is this why?
The leg pain it causes I take Tylenol for sometimes. But I've always believed that it's silly or stupid to take a med than take an additional med for the side effects!! I know that sometimes ppl need to but in the case where all I'm getting is the side effects but no other effects I feel it's wrong. So along with my fear of bad complications it seems like I have no option but to eat very little.

I don't think anyone in here actually in any other forums or social media is more qualified than a well-educated endo to answer your question or help you with your treatment plan but I don't think any endo will put you on insulin unless its necessary what I can help you here with is to give you some support any recommendation firstly r u sure that feeling is due to insulin not to the unstable bg numbers anyone with diabetic will feel a constant state of hunger (hyperphagia) if the big numbers is unstable and the insulin dose is not correct if that the case try to work on your numbers and insulin dose if not try to figure out if maybe its just the diet try to reduce carbs eat salad before every meal and add meat to your diet well a balanced diet contains carbs veggies and protein if that didn't help maybe it's the fact that you need to calculate food and be a little strict you didn't accept it is some kind of denial of the disease maybe try to talk to a friend about it or mental support expert im sure if you follow that you'll be in a match better state think about it controlled diabetes or complications the last thing I can recommend if your a type 2 go to another endo and get another opinion if the insulin is a must try tresiba or ryzodeg there is also Levemir but you'll need to inject twice a day there is plenty of treatment option for type 2 just time and you'll find what's suitable for you

 

[Deleted member 208503]

I used to be on toujeo at a dose of 160 units. Then got switched to a premix which worked best for me. But the company stopped making it. Then I got switched to basaglar which I couldn't operate the very tight plunger. So went back to toujeo.
Lantus or other basals are not covered in my drug plan. But maybe 70 units of toujeo isn't enough. I am "allowed" to do my own adjustments.
The hunger thing. You could be right. It could be that diabetes hunger from bs being high.
For diet changes I don't have the finances for low carb. Plus I have many meat intolerances.

 

[Deleted member 208503]

BTW.
In just under a week back on insulin weight is up 2 pounds.
I know we put the food in our mouths but I still believe it's insulin caused weight gain.
I don't have extra food to overeat.
And 3 professionals have said this will happen. Insulin causes weight gain.

 

[The Balladeer]

I used to be on toujeo at a dose of 160 units. Then got switched to a premix which worked best for me. But the company stopped making it. Then I got switched to basaglar which I couldn't operate the very tight plunger. So went back to toujeo.
Lantus or other basals are not covered in my drug plan. But maybe 70 units of toujeo isn't enough. I am "allowed" to do my own adjustments.
The hunger thing. You could be right. It could be that diabetes hunger from bs being high.
For diet changes I don't have the finances for low carb. Plus I have many meat intolerances.

lantus basgalar toujeo all r different faces for the same coin the coin is insulin glargine check if you can get ryzodeg its really good for type 2 r you using basal/bolus or only basal well im 80% sure that felling of hunger big part of it is due to the unstable numbers we cant fic multiple problems at once les work one by one firstly try to fix your bg numbers 2 i didint say go low carb i know not all of people can afford that ^plan what i sain is lower the carb intake and add salad in your plate launch and dinner try fish or beef ther is lamb or chicken pork sheep and eggs maybe youll find something that work dont forget to increase water intake sorry for any misspell i dont have time to check

 

[Deleted member 208503]

lantus basgalar toujeo all r different faces for the same coin the coin is insulin glargine check if you can get ryzodeg its really good for type 2 r you using basal/bolus or only basal well im 80% sure that felling of hunger big part of it is due to the unstable numbers we cant fic multiple problems at once les work one by one firstly try to fix your bg numbers 2 i didint say go low carb i know not all of people can afford that ^plan what i sain is lower the carb intake and add salad in your plate launch and dinner try fish or beef ther is lamb or chicken pork sheep and eggs maybe youll find something that work dont forget to increase water intake sorry for any misspell i dont have time to check

I'm occasionally using toujeo and trurapi. I say occasionally because I miss doses because I don't like the painful side effects.

I can add eggs. I love salad but with no teeth I can't figure out how to eat it.