Experiment day

[BioHaZarD]

I am not taking my 1 x Metformin today...... The more I think about I am only taking 1, and I am sure I can control with diet, I have great cholesterol, blood pressure, etc so I don't think that the benefits it gives regarding heart and vascular are as great as it would be if I was taking 2-4 pills a day, and I would benefit more without the urgent trips o the loo.

Started the day at BG 5.6

Lets see what happens.....

 

[BioHaZarD]

Ok, day 1, started at BG 5.6, 6.1, 6.3, 5.2 and ended on 5.8. So not too different from any day with Metformin, I did do a lot of driving today which sometimes raises my levels.

 

[BioHaZarD]

Started at BG 6.3 this morning, a bit busy so missed my after reading, but now before lunch I am BG 5.2.

 

[BioHaZarD]

3 days in and all food, this morning BG 5.8

 

[Rivig]

Seems good keep the reports coming :clap:

 

[Superchip]

I stopped Metformin 2 weeks ago and my levels have not changed one bit.
I can now have a glass or three of red wine without the inevitable toilet results !!!!!!
I've been on these bl**dy pills for 10 so**ing years !!!
Obviously I'll keep a very good eye (no retinopathy yet !) on the levels.

GLA Superchip

 

[BioHaZarD]

Day 4, all is well, see me ahem toilet post

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?nomobile=1&f=25&t=33230

 

[BioHaZarD]

End of day 4 is looking amazing.

Started with 5.8, 6.8 after breakfast then gym, 6.6 30 mins after, 6.2 1 hour after. 4.7 before dinner, 5.1 after, and just now before bed 4.4. Boy do I ache after gym, gonna be sore in the morning.

 

[BioHaZarD]

Today's results with no meds is....

5.5, 5.7, 5.0, 5.2, 4.8 now off to sleep

 

[Pneu]

Those are looking really good Biohazard

 

[Sid Bonkers]

Hardly surprising though, one metformin tablet will have virtually no impact on bg levels anyway, the max dose will only help to reduce levels by between 1 and 2 mmol/L so one 500mg tablet I would expect to have between zero and .5 mmol/L at max.

I would personally still take the one tablet though just to help guard against cardiac and some cancer risks, as I understand it one tablet still gives all those benefits it just wont help much to lower bg levels and if tummy upsets are an issue there is always the SR version.

And of course the free prescriptions are not to be sniffed at either---what are they now, £7 or something every time you need a pill, cream or potion.

 

[BioHaZarD]

Hardly surprising though, one metformin tablet will have virtually no impact on bg levels anyway, the max dose will only help to reduce levels by between 1 and 2 mmol/L so one 500mg tablet I would expect to have between zero and .5 mmol/L at max.

I would personally still take the one tablet though just to help guard against cardiac and some cancer risks, as I understand it one tablet still gives all those benefits it just wont help much to lower bg levels and if tummy upsets are an issue there is always the SR version.

And of course the free prescriptions are not to be sniffed at either---what are they now, £7 or something every time you need a pill, cream or potion.

If the max dose of Metformin x 4 only just helps with B levels by 1 or 2 mmol/L then does 1 really have that much help towards cardiac and cancers? I am liking the zero effect on the toilet situation, I think would rather get this back than take a pill. The risk of cancer and heart issues can hit anytime for a non diabetic or diabetic and does not discriminate.

As for free prescriptions, yes it's nice, but I would rather pay as and when I need them, again if it make my tummy normal. I can plan things and not worry.

 

[Etty]

I would personally still take the one tablet though just to help guard against cardiac and some cancer risks, as I understand it one tablet still gives all those benefits ...

Do you know if the information about metformin and risk has been studied in diabetics on a lchf diet, or just for a "normal" carb group?

 

[Defren]

If the max dose of Metformin x 4 only just helps with B levels by 1 or 2 mmol/L then does 1 really have that much help towards cardiac and cancers? I am liking the zero effect on the toilet situation, I think would rather get this back than take a pill. The risk of cancer and heart issues can hit anytime for a non diabetic or diabetic and does not discriminate.

As for free prescriptions, yes it's nice, but I would rather pay as and when I need them, again if it make my tummy normal. I can plan things and not worry.

While I can see why you have chosen not to take Metformin, I was leaning to asking for it to be reduced or stopped. Then after reading the protective qualities, I think I prefer to stay on it. I am on 500mg twice a day and don't have any adverse reactions (now). If I had been in your shoes, I think I would have been terribly torn between taking and not taking. I will continue to watch your figures with interest, but I think I will probably remain on the drug, certainly for the foreseeable future.

Good luck.

 

[Superchip]

Have sidelined the metformin as reported earlier since the 13th inst. Now 2030 hrs level 4.7 ! why have I been taking this C**p for so long ? The medical so-called " profession" have a lot to answer for, I Think that they are charlatans in white coats.

It is about time we called a halt to these propaganda monkeys and demand some accountability for their arbitary diagnoses of theoretical diseases ! Where did they learn their trade ? From very old people who learned from even older ne'er do wells !

All right Rodney ?

 

[BioHaZarD]

If the max dose of Metformin x 4 only just helps with B levels by 1 or 2 mmol/L then does 1 really have that much help towards cardiac and cancers? I am liking the zero effect on the toilet situation, I think would rather get this back than take a pill. The risk of cancer and heart issues can hit anytime for a non diabetic or diabetic and does not discriminate.

As for free prescriptions, yes it's nice, but I would rather pay as and when I need them, again if it make my tummy normal. I can plan things and not worry.

While I can see why you have chosen not to take Metformin, I was leaning to asking for it to be reduced or stopped. Then after reading the protective qualities, I think I prefer to stay on it. I am on 500mg twice a day and don't have any adverse reactions (now). If I had been in your shoes, I think I would have been terribly torn between taking and not taking. I will continue to watch your figures with interest, but I think I will probably remain on the drug, certainly for the foreseeable future.

Good luck.

I know what you mean, I thought about it for long time, my mum and dad both had type 2 my mum had all sorts of trouble and was taking everything and insulin. My mind was not to end up on meds and any complications.

So far today my figures have been excellent, will post later when done final test.

 

[angua]

Out of interest, I hear a lot about the benefits of Metformin for cardiovascular protection - can anyone tell me where I can find supportive evidence ?

Gilly

 

[lucylocket61]

I would also like to hear about these cardovascular benefits too as i have stopped my Metformin SR due to side-effects.

 

[angua]

Sorry Bio - I had meant to congratulate you on those amazing figures

:thumbup: :thumbup:

 

[BioHaZarD]

Sorry Bio - I had meant to congratulate you on those amazing figures

:thumbup: :thumbup:

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