ExChocoholic
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Does anyone have experience of the Fast 800 diet plan? I am T2 diagnosed 12 years - at 5'5" 9.5 stone- tummy fat is my issue and mo matter how I try I cannot seem to get my BS under control. Seriously thinking of trying this programme https://programme.thefast800.com/product/fast800-membership/
Cost £99 for support and diet suggestions. My daughter says it is Keto and as I have stage 3 kidney disease it may not be for me. She is on keto and takes electrolytes as a supplement, her issues different to mine though her BS spike and fall. She has thyroid disease and is trying to lose weight.
Any advice is most welcome - thanks.
Does anyone have experience of the Fast 800 diet plan? I am T2 diagnosed 12 years - at 5'5" 9.5 stone- tummy fat is my issue and mo matter how I try I cannot seem to get my BS under control. Seriously thinking of trying this programme https://programme.thefast800.com/product/fast800-membership/
Cost £99 for support and diet suggestions. My daughter says it is Keto and as I have stage 3 kidney disease it may not be for me. She is on keto and takes electrolytes as a supplement, her issues different to mine though her BS spike and fall. She has thyroid disease and is trying to lose weight.
Any advice is most welcome - thanks.
It shouldn't, as it's a perfecly healthy blood sugarmy blood sugar regularly drops to just over 4, but I don't seem to suffer any particular issues with this.
You have already been advised by BulkBiker (in an earlier thread) to cut down on carbs, yet you were happy to eat both corn and Sweet Potato at the same meal. Low GI doesn't mean that the carbs down raise your BG - it just means it takes longer, so either you get the same spike later, or you get a longer lightly raised BG!Does anyone have experience of the Fast 800 diet plan? I am T2 diagnosed 12 years - at 5'5" 9.5 stone- tummy fat is my issue and mo matter how I try I cannot seem to get my BS under control. Seriously thinking of trying this programme https://programme.thefast800.com/product/fast800-membership/
Cost £99 for support and diet suggestions. My daughter says it is Keto and as I have stage 3 kidney disease it may not be for me. She is on keto and takes electrolytes as a supplement, her issues different to mine though her BS spike and fall. She has thyroid disease and is trying to lose weight.
Any advice is most welcome - thanks.
I no longer eat these! I understand high fat but how does that work with cholesterol? Serious question not a jibe!You have already been advised by BulkBiker (in an earlier thread) to cut down on carbs, yet you were happy to eat both corn and Sweet Potato at the same meal. Low GI doesn't mean that the carbs down raise your BG - it just means it takes longer, so either you get the same spike later, or you get a longer lightly raised BG!
What makes you think that you are an exception?
Crash diets are proven to fail in the vast majority of cases - particularly for people who think they can 'cheat'.
Your Kidney problem means that High Protein is not good for you. You should already know that high or even normal carbs are bad for you. That only leaves one Macro nutrient source - Fats!
I was barely overweight when diagnosed, on 'do it yourself' Low Carb High Fat (and I mean High Fat - lots of Olive Oil drizzled over everything, over 200gms of cheese every day, lot of brazil and walnuts). I brought my pre and post prandial BG figures down dramatically. At first I lost between 1 and 2lbs per week with no hunger, no extra exercise and probably consuming more calories than before!
Since then I have cut down on the cheese a bit, but still don't' get hungrier than on a normal diet and I am still slowly losing weight and have now lost 17lbs - which is more than the 10% of my original body weight.
Get yourself a meter if you don't have one - test before and after every meal (at 2hrs after first bite, if you eat a little high GI carbs then also test at 1hr after, if you eat a little low GI carbs then also test at 3hrs after (where possible).
"Cholesterol" is irrelevant.I no longer eat these! I understand high fat but how does that work with cholesterol? Serious question not a jibe!
I will be testing that out for real in just under 1 week.I no longer eat these! I understand high fat but how does that work with cholesterol? Serious question not a jibe!
You didn't specifically say it, but you (in the other thread) were going contrary to the practical experience of thousands of Type 2's and insisting that Low GI Carbs were OK !Sorry - where did I say this 'What makes you think that you are an exception?'
Most cholesterol we make ourselves, in our liver, it doesn't come from what we eat in all that significant quantities. As you lose weight, your liver will shed some cholesterol so it'll go up a bit, but that's because it's on its way out. (It was already in your body, but won't show up in your blood tests until it's headed for the exit). As your weight stabilises after a little while, the cholesterol'll go down too. I mean... I'm eating bacon once or twice a day, on top of a bunch of good fats like nuts, fish and what have you, and my cholesterol's fine. Haven't taken a statin in 3 years. I'm not alone in this either. So that's what's meant with "Cholesterol is irrelevant". It really is, unless you have familial high cholesterol and a pre-existing heart condition, as that changes things. As for the diet.... Just go for low carb, high fat, moderate to low protein... If you go with that, you usually eat fewer overly processed foods, meaning you'll ingest less salts as it is, making your kidneys happy. Just don't overdo it on the protein (and don't start on the protein shakes!!!!!), and get your kidney function tested regularly.I no longer eat these! I understand high fat but how does that work with cholesterol? Serious question not a jibe!
This is just the Newcastle Diet in a slighty different format set up to make Dr Moseley some more dosh.
Not a good option for someone who is not in great health.Answer : Try the Dave Feldman Protocol
Why do you say that?Sorry, disagree, as he also talks about the need to avoid high carb food, and intermittent fasting. I got no idea how good the support is on his program, however, his book is reasonable. Not my chosen way as I am of the "very low carb" don't limit other foods mindset, but many people get great results from his books.
Not a good option for someone who is not in great health.
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