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Jo123

Jo123

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Really cross this morning, have been strictly low carbing since getting an impaired fasting bg reading and despite losing weight bmi from 24 to 20, upping exercise, used to walk dog 4 miles a day now I run for three times a week for 30 mins as well. My fasting bg this morning was 5.6, and I have had a few mornings like this.
Yesterday I only eat unsweetened soy yoghurt plus almonds for breakfast, tin mackarel salad for lunch, plus 2 peices 90% chocolate, then we went out for curry in the evening but I only had chicken tikka sag, plus some bindi bhaji, no rice, naan bread not even a sniff! And I had a couple of glasses of red wine. Feel totally fed up that I am trying so hard and my readings are going up!
 
There could be some carbs hiding in your Indian meal. Next time you have one, test after 1 and then 2 hours
Otherwise, you could be experiencing Dawn Phenomenon.
I can't get a fasting below 5 either, Doesn't matter what I eat the day before. It's maddening isn't it?
Hana
 
If my fasting Bg was 5.6 every morning I'd be very happy. :? It's the readings after meals that I am more concerned about.
 
thanks both of you for your replies.

Ken I know that reading is not high, but I was just fed up this morning as I have tried so hard and my figures are getting worse. I do measure after meals and with low carbing I get good figures. But if I try to add carbs my figures go right up. I think before my impaired fasting BG diagnosis they were a lot higher because I had all the symptons, peeing a lot, blurred vision, itchy skin etc.

Hanna, could be something in the curry, I don't know. I don't seem to suffer from the dawn phenomenon, normally I used to get my morning figures lower by not eating after 7.30pm and then by keeping the carbs very low. If I eat later then my figures go up even if it just a lump of cheese. The whole thing is frustrating isn't it.
 
Hi Jo123.

Don't feel bad about it. We all have 'glitches', nothings ever perfect. By worrying or getting frustrated you could be stressing yourself and that in itself will elevate Bg levels. You appear to be doing well if your other posts are anything to go by. As someone else said on here recently....chill !!
:D
 
I think you are doing just fine! My morning Bg is usually around 5.6 too and I am quite happy with that. As for add carbs, I had to completely forget potatoes, rice, bread and pasta - and any other high carb food for the first 3 months. I have just started to introduce some higher carb items, like Nimble bread which I love (oh what a surprise!! Yeah I know! :lol: ) Although my Bg still goes up to 7.1 - 7.3 1 hour after breakfast or lunch (when I have bread) it is down to its usual 5.3 - 5.7 at the 2 hour mark. Next on the trial will be rice!! hmmmmm

I too suspect your indian food having a load of hidden carbs somewhere - most of Indian sauces are quite high in carbs.

Don't know your diet, but many cannot have things like carrots and leeks, but it does not make a huge difference to me. However, onions pushes my Bg up a bit, so only have once in a while.

Funny old world this diabetes-marleky!! You are doing fine .......... at least you didn't do "an Alice"!!! hehehehe



Alice
 
My husband is very fedup as well. He's trying so hard but I think is expecting too much. He is constantly ratty & hungry, and although his levels have halved, from 14 to in the 7s, it's just not working. We need to find a better way - but I don't know what it is yet ! :evil:
 
Thanks for all your support :D
Actually feel fine today, guess it must have been something in the curry. Or perhaps I eat too much of it!
 
My fasting level is almost never below 6.1. A bit frustrating, as I'd like it to be lower BUT...
No-one's ever actually explained to me why a fasting level in the low 6s is a problem. It seems still well below the "danger level". Is it simply that breakfast may push it too high into a spike if you're not careful? Or is there some other problem?
 
Well firstly I don't have diabetes, just a strong family history of it and heart disease and impaired glucose tolerant. So I am being strict so it doesn't get any worse.
Now I only discovered my fasting bg was creeping up because I was feeling less than 100% in the morning and decided to test my bg, and it was higher than before. So with me it makes me feel better when it is lower.
 
If mine goes above 7 l feel really tired- added incentive to keep it down- l think as long as its between 4- 7 its fine but l think the reason for them saying to have a lower BS level before eating is the spike. Im not on insulin at the moment (type 1 and low carber since Feb- might be honeymooning or something is working right not sure...) but depending upon what l eat if my BS is already nearly 7 it will take it over but the lower it is the easier it is to keep it in that range..
Also l think from my short experience that Blood sugar generally should stay stable over night- if it increases then its the overall insulin that the body produces has dropped a bit and needs a bit of help... some 24hr/12hr lantus/levemir insulin may be required.
 
Indian food in restaurants

You have to be careful because your basic indian restaurant curry base is a mega onion laden sauce which is spiced. Onions = carbs so please be careful. Bst way to make curry is DIY from all the right spices then you can measure out your carbs and it also tastes better :D .

K
 
re: - fed up and asian foods

ostensibly you would think that asian food is healthy but my partner is thai and they never seem to cook any meal without adding sugar to it - I imagine the same things happen in thai and indian restaurants. Eating out or having take aways is one of the biggest nightmares in any kind of dieting never mind low carb. Even the places that claim to offer low calorie or healthy meals never count carbs.

I just have no idea what to order when we stay with friends and have take aways or go out for meals - about the only thing on most menus I would trust is filet steak and salad (I only like very tender lean meat - well actually my teeth only like that) and that means I would end up ordering the most expensive things on the menu!

I love the added control I have with low carbing but hate the difficulties of finding something to eat that I like and is avaialble without preparation and cooking. Also the biggest dissappointment is that the better BS control has not improved my ailing sexual ability which was my main motivation in trying to get better control

so sure I know all about feeling fed up with it all
 
Knapweed said:
Indian food in restaurants

You have to be careful because your basic indian restaurant curry base is a mega onion laden sauce which is spiced. Onions = carbs so please be careful. Bst way to make curry is DIY from all the right spices then you can measure out your carbs and it also tastes better :D .

K
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The onions are not the problem!! It is the sauce!! Onions are only 2.4 per 30 gm.
 
sugarless sue said:
The onions are not the problem!! It is the sauce!! Onions are only 2.4 per 30 gm.
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Does the slow frying process increase that though Sue? Most curries use mega amounts of onions, essentially it's onions, tomato, garlic and various spices. If I'm doing a curry for 4 I'd probably use three decent sized onions (well would have done), just going off what Indian friends tell me. The onions are then cooked for a long time, essentially the onion provide the 'thickness' of the sauce. Least that's what I've always been told.
 
Hi Doc.

I use buckets of Onions and garlic etc which are fried and also just thrown in raw to cook when making a Chicken Dupiaza, a spicy onion, herbs dish. (least it is when I make it)

I have tried testing with this one before meals and 1, 2 and 3 hrs after meals and Bg readings have never gone above around 7'ish. I can sometimes manage a miniscule portion of Basmati or wild rice, just enough to cover an eggcup size area. Most time it is no rice whatsoever. So as far as I am concerned frying etc makes little or no difference. I use a sunflower oil to fry. Try testing and see what it does ?

I do miss a Naan or Chapati though. Make up for it with Popadoms, more raw onion and plenty of spicy pickles such as Lime/Garlic/Brinjal instead. Heaven.... :D
 
cugila said:
Hi Doc.

I use buckets of Onions and garlic etc which are fried and also just thrown in raw to cook when making a Chicken Dupiaza, a spicy onion, herbs dish. (least it is when I make it)

I have tried testing with this one before meals and 1, 2 and 3 hrs after meals and Bg readings have never gone above around 7'ish. I can sometimes manage a miniscule portion of Basmati or wild rice, just enough to cover an eggcup size area. Most time it is no rice whatsoever. So as far as I am concerned frying etc makes little or no difference. I use a sunflower oil to fry. Try testing and see what it does ?

I do miss a Naan or Chapati though. Make up for it with Popadoms, more raw onion and plenty of spicy pickles such as Lime/Garlic/Brinjal instead. Heaven.... :D
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Sounds fantastic Ken, I just assumed because onions sweeten as you slow fry them then that would affect BG, I've never really put it to the test. I still enjoy a curry, but, like you, don't bother with the rice. I find Thai/Malay type curries work really well with a salad of chinese leaf, herbs and bean-sprouts so just use that.

I discovered chapatis late on, just before diangnosis, always had naan before that, chapatis became my fave!
 
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