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djry

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Anyone know what foods to eat I've only had one weeabix with milk and a cheese toastie on brow bread and my blood sugar levels have gone up to 18.9 they were 15 this morning can't get my head around it as it's all new to me sorry for all the questions ha ha
 
Are you on basal bolus (taking a long acting insulin once or twice a day and fast a acting insulin with meals)? What insulin (how many units) did you take with your meals? Has anyone given you any information on carb counting?
 
Anyone know what foods to eat I've only had one weeabix with milk and a cheese toastie on brow bread and my blood sugar levels have gone up to 18.9 they were 15 this morning can't get my head around it as it's all new to me sorry for all the questions ha ha

Hi and welcome to the forum.
I've tagged @daisy1 to give you the newcomers welcome information.
Please read the information and try and understand what is causing your blood glucose levels to rise, it's the carbs!
Read the low carb forum, then read the success stories thread.
You will find some great knowledgeable people on here, who have been where you are now. And they understand the condition!
 
Gidday :)

Look around the forums (and if need be, ask away and we'll address it bit by bit) but those numbers are too high. Cereals are no good for starters (full of sugars) and neither are most breads (wheat) as far as I'm concerned. Glucose overload hence the figures.

Get rid of that rubbish (the cereals at least) and start with a good low carb and hi fat breakfast ... eggs, hi meat snags, bacons, spinaches, mushrooms, butters and see where that takes you. No shortcuts for you or any of us but double figures need to be avoided. It isn't hard at all with advice (here by the bucketload) and you will achieve what many thought impossible. Control.
 
Your profile says you are on oral tablets. Is this Metformin or some other diabetes tablet? I take it you are not on insulin?

Carbs all turn to sugar once inside the system, including so called healthy ones like brown bread and weetabix. The more carbs of any sort that you eat, the higher your blood sugars will be. The main culprits are bread, cereals, potatoes, rice, pasta and flour.

If you test before you eat and a couple of hours after first bite, keep a food diary and record your levels alongside, patterns will soon emerge as to which foods are doing you harm. You can then choose to try them again with much reduced portions, or eliminate them completely. Only testing as I described will teach you this. Everyone has different tolerances. For example, I can manage a few small potatoes or half a dozen chips but anything made with flour I have to avoid as much as possible. Others may not.

Double figures are not good, as I'm sure you know, so now is the time to change your eating habits. :).
 
I also looked at her information and just says oral meds!
Hence my post!
 
Are you on basal bolus (taking a long acting insulin once or twice a day and fast a acting insulin with meals)? What insulin (how many units) did you take with your meals? Has anyone given you any information on carb counting?
Yes that's what I'm on only been taking it nearly 2 weeks I take 16 units of lantus in the morning and 2 units of novorapid at dinner time then 7 units at tea time don't normally have breakfast but I was hungry this morning
 
So you are on fixed doses with meals?

I would recommend speaking to your DSN about carb counting and how to adjust your bolus doses for the carbs you are eating and also how to do correction doses.

http://www.bdec-e-learning.com - this is a good starting point for carb counting.

While the advice above on managing your levels by reducing carb intake is good advice I would suggest that you do need to have a bit of confidence in adjusting your insulin for carb intake before starting that because if you dramatically reduce carbs while still on fixed doses you are going to run the risk of hypos.
 
Yes that's what I'm on only been taking it nearly 2 weeks I take 16 units of lantus in the morning and 2 units of novorapid at dinner time then 7 units at tea time don't normally have breakfast but I was hungry this morning

The Lantus is your basal/background insulin and its job is to keep your blood sugar in range even if you didn't eat. The Novorapid is your bolus/meal insulin, and whether that works and keeps your blood sugar in range two hours after eating will depend on how well the insulin dose matches the carbs in that meal. Getting that right is everything.

You said your blood sugar was 15 in the morning. What was it when you went to bed the night before? Ideally, the Lantus should keep your blood sugar steady all night.

If you write down what you eat and your blood test results, it will give your DSN a better idea of how to adjust your insulin until you're confident doing so yourself :)
 
@djry

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information, mentioned above, which we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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