Frozen shoulder/trigger finger

[Sarah69]

Hi, does anyone have either of the above and if so what treatment have you had?

 

[khristina.b]

Hi, does anyone have either of the above and if so what treatment have you had?

I had frozen shoulder in both shoulders. Initially I had a steroid injection, which I regretted having, as it didn't help and gave me high sugars for about a month after. In the end I had surgery on my right shoulder followed by physio and after a while my left one thawed. That was just over a year ago, and I now have full mobility in both shoulders. I also have ducheyne contracture nodules on both palms, but luckily this hasn't progressed.

 

[Indy51]

These are quite common complications of diabetes and there are many previous threads about them on the forum if you do a search. Most complications will ease with better blood glucose control but these will probably require some form of physical therapy to resolve.

 

[ButtterflyLady]

Frozen shoulder and finger problems are covered in this paper on complications by endocrinologist Dr Richard Bernstein:
http://ec2-184-73-33-13.compute-1.a....com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/bernstein.pdf

 

[Sarah69]

Did anybody take painkillers for frozen shoulder? I'm on 40mg of morphine and it's not touching the pain. I'm going to have an injection for the trigger finger but does this actually work? I have no faith in treatments as things do not seem to work for me!

 

[Indy51]

No, I didn't take prescription pain killers but had quite a lot of physical therapy which was very painful. I also had a steroid injection that didn't work. I had it in both shoulders, though the onset time was different for both. Supposedly they resolve by themselves regardless of therapy. I think it was about 2 years in total for both to get back to normal. I believe you can also be put under GA and have the capsulitis broken up by manipulation, though don't know how painful the aftermath of that is.

 

[Daibell]

Did anybody take painkillers for frozen shoulder? I'm on 40mg of morphine and it's not touching the pain. I'm going to have an injection for the trigger finger but does this actually work? I have no faith in treatments as things do not seem to work for me!

Hi. My wife was prescribed low dose amitriptyline by her consultant and it helped a lot. If you have adhesive encapsulitis then steroid injections won't help as others have found and my wife's consultant told her.

 

[Sarah69]

I've got it in both shoulders I first noticed it in my left shoulder in 2008 then in the right 2 years later. I've had injections last year they didn't work. I'm now being referred to physio but waiting time is 4/6 months.

 

[dawnmc]

I had an injection in my hand for trigger finger, they go in through the shaft, dear god hang on for your life if you have it done. The pain was tremendous, as to its efficacy, some days it doesn't hurt some days it does. I'm not having it done on my other hand.

 

[kevinfitzgerald]

I had a steroid injection right into the hand for my trigger finger. Yes it did the job. Within two days I had full movement back,

But it was painful and what I didn't quite get is I had a local anesthetic in the same place to numb the area for the steroid injection. Why! It hurt as much as the steroid jab 10 minutes later !

Take some rubber tubing to bite into or someone you don't like that much that you can punch in the face !

Not sure about others that have had this treatment but I found it painful but the big pro is that it worked for me and was well worth a minute or so pain from the jabs !

 

[ButtterflyLady]

Did anybody take painkillers for frozen shoulder? I'm on 40mg of morphine and it's not touching the pain. I'm going to have an injection for the trigger finger but does this actually work? I have no faith in treatments as things do not seem to work for me!

I've read lots of posts and some articles saying the injections are not worth the pain and the BG increase because they don't treat the pain long term. At best you would get say 6 weeks relief, but having the injection done is said to be very painful and people report high BGs for weeks afterwards.

Morphine can be a useful pain med but it's important to prevent and treat the constipation it often causes.

Have you been to a specialist about the shoulder, and perhaps a pain clinic? Have you tried physiotherapy?

Hang in there, it sounds like a very painful condition.

 

[Sarah69]

I've read lots of posts and some articles saying the injections are not worth the pain and the BG increase because they don't treat the pain long term. At best you would get say 6 weeks relief, but having the injection done is said to be very painful and people report high BGs for weeks afterwards.

Morphine can be a useful pain med but it's important to prevent and treat the constipation it often causes.

Have you been to a specialist about the shoulder, and perhaps a pain clinic? Have you tried physiotherapy?

Hang in there, it sounds like a very painful condition.

Yes it's very painful!! I'm on 40mg morphine and it does nothing for the pain. My dr has pointed out and I already know that I don't respond to painkillers. I've been on a high dose of methadone for something else and that never did a thing! Physio is a 4-6 month wait, I'll just have to cope with it til then! The injection talked about for the trigger finger is that painful? And once that's done is that it and the problem has gone? Thanks.

 

[catherinecherub]

There are some exercises that you can do and they are identical to the ones that physio recommended for me.

They are illustrated in this article. Don't overdo them, just build up gradually and stop if they cause too much pain.

http://www.ouh.nhs.uk/shoulderandelbow/information/documents/a4frozenshoulderappendix3.pdf

 

[ButtterflyLady]

Yes it's very painful!! I'm on 40mg morphine and it does nothing for the pain. My dr has pointed out and I already know that I don't respond to painkillers. I've been on a high dose of methadone for something else and that never did a thing! Physio is a 4-6 month wait, I'll just have to cope with it til then! The injection talked about for the trigger finger is that painful? And once that's done is that it and the problem has gone? Thanks.

There are Fentanyl patches which may be more effective than morphine, I don't know. Sorry to hear it's such a long wait for physio. That would be a factor in deciding about the injection, for me. Because temporary relief may be better than no relief. I don't know anything about trigger finger injections, sorry.

 

[Sarah69]

There are Fentanyl patches which may be more effective than morphine, I don't know. Sorry to hear it's such a long wait for physio. That would be a factor in deciding about the injection, for me. Because temporary relief may be better than no relief. I don't know anything about trigger finger injections, sorry.

I've used the patches before and they didn't work, I've had injections in my shoulders last June they didn't work either! I guess I'll have to just put up with the pain I have done so far!

 

[ButtterflyLady]

I've used the patches before and they didn't work, I've had injections in my shoulders last June they didn't work either! I guess I'll have to just put up with the pain I have done so far!

Have you tried non-opioid pain modifying drugs like pregabalin, gabapentin, nortriptyline, amitriptyline, duloxetine and clonidine for example? They can be a bit hit and miss, what works for one person doesn't work for another.

 

[Jackie100]

Mua frozen shoulder

 

[Jackie100]

I'm haveing Mua for frozen shoulder on Monday with general anesthetic and just wandering if I will be allowed to keep my pump on while having procedure ?

 

[Gaz-M]

Ive had trigger finger in both my thumbs, one after the other and needed injections into the ligament at the base of the thumb