Has anyone ever had a fluorescent angiogram on their eyes?

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Yes, I have one for my regular retinopathy check.
I have to sign to say I have no allergy (to I think just shellfish but it might be a couple o f other things as well) You might feel a bit weird for a couple of seconds when the dye is 'injected' (via a canula) Afterwards you will produce vivid yellow wee for a day or so.
 

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Slightly yellow face too depending upon your colouring. Nohing to it -unless you are allergic to shellfish. There was a recen thread about it. Shygirl was the OP {I think} Several people here have had them and lived to tell the tale!

That is another procedure which is very alarming the first time because of tthe consent forms and the questions about allergies.
Apart from the dye it is not much different o the OCT scans which are a regular feature for most of us on our visits to the eye clinic.
Should definitely help to pinpoint the trouble spots and reduce he amount of laser you will need if applicable.
The message seems o be getting through about this which is good. Fewer but more eperienced /qualfied people administering
more precisely targeted treatment. Must be an improvement.
 

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Twice, first time I was fine but the second time I felt a little faint a few seconds after the dye was administrated, Phoenix is right about the wee :D
 

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Slightly yellow face too depending upon your colouring. Nohing to it -unless you are allergic to shellfish. There was a recen thread about it. Shygirl was the OP {I think} Several people here have had them and lived to tell the tale!

That is another procedure which is very alarming the first time because of tthe consent forms and the questions about allergies.
Apart from the dye it is not much different o the OCT scans which are a regular feature for most of us on our visits to the eye clinic.
Should definitely help to pinpoint the trouble spots and reduce he amount of laser you will need if applicable.
The message seems o be getting through about this which is good. Fewer but more eperienced /qualfied people administering
more precisely targeted treatment. Must be an improvement.
If there's one thing I hate it's seafood so I don't know if I'm allergic to shellfish :sick:. Why the tie up with shellfish is an extract used in the manufacuture of the dye?

It all sounds a bit hairy so if I don't come back on Friday you will know what's happened although hopefully I will be sittinge here typing as I glow in the dark :lol:.
 

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SouthernGeneral6512 said:
It all sounds a bit hairy so if I don't come back on Friday you will know what's happened although hopefully I will be sittinge here typing as I glow in the dark :lol:.


I am sure you'll be fine, a nurse stays with you throughout and they won't let you home unless you are feeling 100%.
 

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SouthernGeneral6512 said:
Can't remember the last time I felt 100% :lol:



Probably in for a long stay then! You feel nauseous for a short time [usually couple of seconds ]abiout 20 seconds after the radioactivity kicks in. My hospital have a nice comfy bed in a little room next door for those who don't feel so great.

Last time I had an angogram a few months ago a group of us "victims were discussing it all. We reckoned that a grea deal was due to anxiety. At one time they used o make a big deal of it. Calling you into a separate room to tell you about all the possible side effects and giving you tea and making you rest afterwards . The whole thing was a big deal.
Nowadays - no doubt to save money there is none of that. The nurse inserts the canula in he same room as the photos
are taken. When hey are finished you can go. No rest , no tea. Just bye bye.

A couple of the nurses overheard us and said that they had noticed that fewer paients felt sick and needed o lie down afterwards since the whole thing had been simplified.

I know that my Bp is normal before and after an angiogram but at the top of the scale whenever I see my Practice DSN!
 

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Wish they could inject nonobots to repair the retina ... oh to be a zebrafish :mrgreen:.

Seriously thanks for the information I do find it a little concerning that they ask you how you are with shellfish and I've never eaten them :?
 

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I had my first one last month. It was scary because I hadn't heard of them before and the doctor told me I had to have it the next day and made me sign a consent form even though I could hardly see and was on my own.

I'm unlucky with nausea (in the past i've been asked if i'm pregnant ) so was expecting to feel sick but I was fine.
 

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Thanks for that shygirl glad it went well but what I really want to know how are you with shellfish? :D
 

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Unbeliever said:
Last time I had an angogram a few months ago a group of us "victims were discussing it all. We reckoned that a grea deal was due to anxiety. At one time they used o make a big deal of it. Calling you into a separate room to tell you about all the possible side effects and giving you tea and making you rest afterwards . The whole thing was a big deal.
Nowadays - no doubt to save money there is none of that. The nurse inserts the canula in he same room as the photos
are taken. When hey are finished you can go. No rest , no tea. Just bye bye.


You can't help but feel anxious so that's a good explanation. I never got a cup of tea but can't say enough about the caring nature of the nursing staff in the clinic.
 

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Sorry SG keep meaning to answer your shellfish query but seem to be distracted each time [senility}

As I understand it it is not the shellfish in itself it is the fact hat the dye is based on iodine. It is really the iodine allergy they are looking for . Most people would not know if they had an allergy to it but it is likely if a person is allergic to shellfish .
Thas why they ask you about allergies in general .

I have always been assured there is a very small risk in any event.
Its a very strange thing but I understand that that all the fuss about the angiograms -which frightens the life ou of patients
and I know i does because i was absoluely terrified the first ime is based on an absolutely miniscule risk of serious side effects
while the injections I have in the operating yheatre every few months carry a 50% chance of blindness from one cause and 25%
from another. Although I have to consent each time and am asked about allergies etc and all he procedures with hygeine etc are taken and an anaesthesist is there it is somehow not s intimuidaing as the palaver that used to surround the angiograms
I can only assume it has something to do wih the hospital's insurance.

So if you go blind ias a resukt of a procedure in the operating theatre thats OK but if you were seriously ill as a result of the angiogram it would not please the insureres.
The allergy question applies in both. Maybe its because angiogramas are now done so frequently and they haven't yet caught up with the injection business.
But really not to worry SG , your journey o the hospital is probably more risky than the procedure. I have given up worrying now .
I have found that if I have a problem with any of it it is always with something I never considered or wouldn't have known about
or have had done dozens of imes before.

In some ways being familiar with it all makes life easier but in others it has the opposite effect. Because i am almost an inmate
I know so many of the saff I also know which are the most efficient and i sudder when certain people are on duty .

Apart from procedures which fail and have to be repeated because certain staff are less adep than others the worsre thing hat happened to me was after a caaract op which was combined with another procedure and needed medication for a few weeks afterwards. My penicillin allergy was duly considered and i was given another drug mean o be very safe. Guess what?
I can't remember ever feeling so ill It ook me 3 weeks to get back to the hospital for my check up,
Such a reacion has never been recorded before. of course there are always risks with any treatment but wih the scans i think you just have to remeber hat hey are used daily for many conditions.
I have noticed that they are using much less dye nowadays in order to reduce the possible effect on patients. So you shouldn# be yellow for long!
 

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Thanks for the reply you really have been through the mill and yet reman so positive :thumbup:.

If it's an iodine allergy can they not test for that ... with people so much more litigious now a days you think it would be worth their while? I suppose as you say it's quite rare to have a problem so perhaps isn't worth THEIR while.

It seems like a good idea to use less dye suppose it makes sense to only use the minimum required
 

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SouthernGeneral6512 said:
Thanks for the reply you really have been through the mill and yet reman so positive :thumbup:.

If it's an iodine allergy can they not test for that ... with people so much more litigious now a days you think it would be worth their while? I suppose as you say it's quite rare to have a problem so perhaps isn't worth THEIR while.

It seems like a good idea to use less dye suppose it makes sense to only use the minimum required

Maybe esting would be more dangerous? I have no idea. I just know that hese angiograms ae used so often for somany different conditions and problems are still so very rare it doesnt seem worthwhile. No procedure is without risk.

To be honest I am so positive about it all because in some ways it is the least of my worries! I know what is wrong with me. I know what the available treatments are and I know how i react to them . I know that there is nothing more i can do about my diabetes control.

I can well remeber the fear i once felt about all these procedures. I have even been almost totally blind on occasions and i could now, accept a certain degree of sight loss.
I jknow i would ot cope with blindness . Although my options are limited no one is considering giving up on me.
In common with everyone else I have hings in my life which are much less sraightforward and about which i can do nothing.
I am thankful that i am not ,as ye, coping with too much in the way of other medical conditions.
I came to terms with the retinopathy problems far more easily than with he diabetes for example. Something to do with having , n the whle , more intelligent and better qualified medical help than is usually available to T2s in the local Practice.
There are actually much worse things although the initial diagnosis of a potentially sigh -threatenig condition is a terrible shock
 

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I think you do become accustomed to medical procedures and risk the more you have to deal with them ... it certainly must be hard for someone who goes suddenly from health to having to deal with it all.

I look at all the pills I now take for my heart (10 per day) and think only a couple of months ago I would have balked at even 1 or 2 of these but now swallowing them down almost passes without a second thought
 

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Exactly and that is how you willl soon feel about all this eye business . The forst time for all these hings is frightening.
My diagnosis was very sudden and traumatic.

I had actually been going to the eye clinic for quite some time because my dr mistakenly believed there was a problem with my eyes. On the day I was due to be discharged there acually WAS something wrong with them! So I take nothing for granted.

I am sure you are right about the shick to healthy people. I had been assured I definitely didn't have when I was convinced i had.
Ten years later . all fine clollapsed with an allergy and they old me i was diabetic!
 

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That must have bene very difficult to take to first be reassured then told there was a problem?

Sorry did you mean that your diabetes began with an allergy?