lindisfel said:I accept now I am set on a low GI carb diet for life, I shall never be able to eat a 12 inch pizza's again!
lindisfel said:Hi Kathy....,
I have got my HbA1c down to 46 from 50 purely by bringing carbs down drastically. No meds.
Any grains..including porridge oats and breads, also potatoes, spike me almost immediately after eating and I cannot imagine ever being able to eat the carbs I consumed a year ago before diagnosis....when occasional I enjoyed a large fish and large chips!
Therefore because I am a type 2 I continue to 'throttle' these carbs right back by using a meter to measure their effect.
I have a BMI less then 24, so weight is not a problem now, but I don't have age on my side.
I accept now I am set on a low GI carb diet for life, I shall never be able to eat a 12 inch pizza's again!
As I said 10 years ago when they treated me for locally advanced P.C...."It is life Jim, but not as we know it!"
I hope by diet alone to get my HbA1c down to c.40 but I shall still be a diabetic unless I could get through a glucose tolerance test as a non diabetic.
regards
Derek
wiflib said:My latest HbA1c was 4.6 and this would suggest I don't actually have diabetes but I can assure you I do, I just choose not to eat the stuff that would give me a much higher number. It's the low carb, good fat way for me for the rest of my life.
wiflib
Dear John,
You have done very well indeed to lose over 2 stones in the 7 weeks. The blood glucose numbers you report suggest that you have normal blood glucose control at present. However, this is during the continuing weight loss. For most people, weight loss of 15% (about 2st 10 lb for you) which is maintained in the long term will achieve reversal of diabetes.
You ask about the raised ALT, and this is a simple matter. The ALT rises due to the excess fat in the liver. If the fatty liver continues, there is a chance of developing cirrhosis. However, at the early stage it is entirely reversible. We observe the raised ALT returning to normal with weight loss. For a person in your situation I would recommend that you continue to lose weight to your target, or at least to lose 2st 10 lb, then ask your GP to re-measure both ALT and HbA1c. It may be useful to print out and take this email with you to show your doctor. Do bear in mind that I can only provide information, and your GP will give you personal medical advice.
I hope these points are helpful.
Yours sincerely,
RT
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Dear Doctors,
Please forgive my “copy all” email approach, but I have some recent personal experience of a dramatic change or reversal in average & fasting blood glucose levels over the past 7 weeks (since I was diagnosed as Type 2 diabetic 7 weeks ago). I have achieved this, I believe, due to self initiated rapid weight loss. I hope you find it of interest.
As I mentioned above, I myself was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes just 7 weeks ago. I’m male, aged 37, 5ft 8 inch tall. At the time of diagnoses, I weighed 18 stone 5lbs. I desperately wanted to tackle / reduce the onset of diabetes myself via diet and exercise, and so I rejected my GP’s suggestion of starting Metformin. Admittedly, I “overdid” it diet-wise / exercise-wise over the last 7 weeks …… I went on a very restricted low carb low fat diet (self initiated) and hit my home electric treadmill 2 or 3 times a day. I have lost 2 stone 3lbs in the last 6 weeks to now weigh 16 stone 2lbs. I felt ill during this time (hence my “I overdid it” comment) and felt really weak, light headed, ill and woozy, but my blood glucose readings have come down from 11-15 mmol/L postprandial, to typically 6-7.5 mmol/L postprandial after the weight loss. In the last 2 weeks my fasting overnight readings (first thing in the morning when waking up) are now at 4.5 – 5.2 mmol/L. My GP has noted that my liver ALT levels are 122 at the moment (and AST of 56) …. however I’ve no real way of knowing what these figures were prior to my diabetes diagnoses. Can you suggest if there is there anything I can request from my GP to measure whether this raised ALT level in particular is actually reducing as I lose weight and continue to maintain good blood glucose control ?
During self research online in these past few days, I have stumbled onto the research at http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/di ... versal.htm with great interest (i.e. the findings of particular interest was that people who have had type 2 diabetes for 4 years or less can see reversal when major weight loss occurs). I was delighted to see that the conclusions you had to come to with your research has seemingly mirrored my findings over the last 7 weeks since I was diagnosed. Though in my case, I was not aware of your research and it’s successes during the time I was losing lots of weight.
I am fully determined to continue with the weight loss as I know this will be beneficial in the long run for my all round health, and hopefully to also be beneficial in “my battle” with my Type 2 diabetes.
Please consider including me in any of your future studies / tests with regards this incredible line of research that you are carrying out – I’d be happy to give you more details as / when you need it. My contact details are below in my email signature – please feel free to contact me via any method.
Finally, do you have any further research and / or documents that I could read since you initially did this research? I would dearly love to see any further information that you may have that may help me.
Yours sincerely,
John Fitzpatrick
Email: johnlfitz@gmail.com
P.S. How can I convince my GP to prescribe me with home blood glucose strips so that I can monitor my blood glucose levels? I have been buying the strips myself for my home glucose monitor – but without these I would not have been able to see the results I’ve now gotten??
wodey said:I had my 8th annual review yesterday and am now in the "resolved" group. HbA1c is 39 - Yay. It has taken some time but two years ago I decided to try to lose weight and over that period lost 23kg. Last year I was only borderline (HbA1c 41). Amazingly, despite a really dreadful six months dietwise, all is good. I never thought I would get this far as ALL my grandparents, both my parents and my brother were/are diabetic so I seemed doomed. Not true. I still have some way to go as the diabetic nurse wants my waistline back in the green zone (I think that is under 31 inches) and I am a true apple shape. At 64, it's hard to go to the gym etc but I'll give it a whirl. This time next year I hope to get a gold star at my annual review.
Hope you manage to reverse too. It can be done.
viviennem said:Well done Wodey!
Gezzathorpe, we are all supposed to be reviewed annually. I assume Wodey has been diagnosed with the beast for 8 years?
As a Type 2, I have my eyes checked for retinopathy and the pulses/nerve reactions tested in my feet and lower legs. Then I have blood tests for HbA1c, lipid profile (cholesterol), urea & electrolytes (for kidney function I think), liver function, full blood count, thyroid function and blood haematinic levels which includes vitamin B12 as I'm on metformin. All tests done/blood taken in my local surgery - even the retinopathy screening is peripatetic and visits regularly. All the samples go off to the lab and are back within the week.
I get HbA1c and cholesterol done pretty well whenever I want them - currently every 4 months, down from every 3 months. But the major screening is done once a year, on the annniversary of me finally admiting to being diabetic (another story! :wink: ).
If anyone out there isn't getting these tests done, you should ask for them. They're all critical to our continuing healthy life.
Viv 8)
wodey said:I still have some way to go as the diabetic nurse wants my waistline back in the green zone (I think that is under 31 inches) and I am a true apple shape. At 64, it's hard to go to the gym etc but I'll give it a whirl. This time next year I hope to get a gold star at my annual review.
gezzathorpe said:viviennem said:Well done Wodey!
Gezzathorpe, we are all supposed to be reviewed annually. I assume Wodey has been diagnosed with the beast for 8 years?
As a Type 2, I have my eyes checked for retinopathy and the pulses/nerve reactions tested in my feet and lower legs. Then I have blood tests for HbA1c, lipid profile (cholesterol), urea & electrolytes (for kidney function I think), liver function, full blood count, thyroid function and blood haematinic levels which includes vitamin B12 as I'm on metformin. All tests done/blood taken in my local surgery - even the retinopathy screening is peripatetic and visits regularly. All the samples go off to the lab and are back within the week.
I get HbA1c and cholesterol done pretty well whenever I want them - currently every 4 months, down from every 3 months. But the major screening is done once a year, on the annniversary of me finally admiting to being diabetic (another story! :wink: ).
If anyone out there isn't getting these tests done, you should ask for them. They're all critical to our continuing healthy life.
Viv 8)
I would imagine that Wodey can speak for herself and may not appreciate you thinking that she can't. I never interpret what people say, I read what is written and go by that. It's a policy that works for me as I can always refer to what was actually said, rather than what someone 'really' meant to say. This supposed to be a forum not just one person answering for everyone else.
Perhaps, on Wodey's behalf, you can explain she updated their HbA1C reading to the current one but still shows their years diagnosed as 1. You would probably say, on their behalf, that is a mistake, an oversight or she was in a rush. Clever you!
master mouse said:when I was first diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic I followed a diet control,this enabled me to keep the diabetes under control, and i had a blood test and was told I was no longer classed as a diabetic.About a year later I had classic diabetes symptoms and a blood test was taken again with the result being 24. So not only was I back as a diabetic but it had returned and I no longer could control it with diet I had to have drugs (metaformin and glicicide). Now ten years later I am on insulin and drugs so it does annoy me when people say they can reverse diabets and cure it, as no you cannot, and once a diabetic you will always be.The recent tv programmes claiming to cure diabetes by diet well those people will find out the hard way like I had to. :cry:
lindisfel said:Hi guys,
What I have come to realize is that some of us can get our HbA1c down below the diabetic datum by diet without medication but this does not mean one is cured.
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