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HbA1c - good result........but

Fionaerwin said:
Porridge is a great start
Also look at your portion size, amazing what 23grms of rice/pasta reduction can help reduce your cholesterol
One of the items in the "book" is that mashed potatoes are not as good as boiled potatoes
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See this is where we find we are all different. A (small) bowl of porridge made with water sends my BG into double digits, even after 2 hours, so I no longer eat it
 
yup. and chips are better for me than mash (made with butter or cream or cheese) which are better than boiled potatoes.
Though I tend to avoid potatoes most of the time.
Why waste time an effort producing insulin to deal with unnecessary carbs, when it just drives up my insulin resistance.

This is why testing is vital. We are all so different.
 
Fionaerwin said:
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Thank you for all the "advice" but you've all missed the pointment
I have no other means or need of testing as my regime adopted from the book and my GP let's me know my situation. That's all I have and the picture will hopefully allow everyone to understand the results of 15 years enjoying being diabetic and the health benefits it has given me and is available to all of those with diabetes.
Rubbish the book if you so wish, but at least read it from cover to cover, then judge me
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Hang on a minute.. is that your HbA1c at 43 mmol/mol? So you are officially pre-diabetic not exactly a brilliant number (not of course damning anyone for their numbers) but for someone claiming to have the book to benefit all with Type 2 not the best ad perhaps?
 
Fionaerwin said:
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Thank you for all the "advice" but you've all missed the pointment
I have no other means or need of testing as my regime adopted from the book and my GP let's me know my situation. That's all I have and the picture will hopefully allow everyone to understand the results of 15 years enjoying being diabetic and the health benefits it has given me and is available to all of those with diabetes.
Rubbish the book if you so wish, but at least read it from cover to cover, then judge me
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While HbA1c are not a pissing competition I did wonder where they got >53 as being in the zone... 43 I would suggest is work still in progress.... my 39 certainly is for me...
though oddly my doctor suggested this morning that my control was probably a bit too tight... I wondered off wondering....

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/for-those-in-scotland.109366/
 
bulkbiker said:
Hang on a minute.. is that your HbA1c at 43 mmol/mol? So you are officially pre-diabetic not exactly a brilliant number (not of course damning anyone for their numbers) but for someone claiming to have the book to benefit all with Type 2 not the best ad perhaps?
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I haven't had to take any testing of blood or urine for 8/9 years now
Only time is every 6 months at the surgery
That's my proof that the guidance in the book works. Decrying the data produced by NHS Scotland and if they didn't want to put results in the middle of the chart, who am I to disagree
Should we all follow Michael Moseley and his 5 and 2 diet, which cured him of diabetes (his words not mine), then if that doesn't work move on to his "blood sugar diet" and then if that doesn't go for his Turmeric dit
You choose and thanks for the entertainment

Goodbye to all
 
Fionaerwin said:
I haven't had to take any testing of blood or urine for 8/9 years now
Only time is every 6 months at the surgery
That's my proof that the guidance in the book works. Decrying the data produced by NHS Scotland and if they didn't want to put results in the middle of the chart, who am I to disagree
Should we all follow Michael Moseley and his 5 and 2 diet, which cured him of diabetes (his words not mine), then if that doesn't work move on to his "blood sugar diet" and then if that doesn't go for his Turmeric dit
You choose and thanks for the entertainment

Goodbye to all
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In all fairness, what you do may work for you, but that's not the same as it being the most optimal approach for everyone, or even for you. Perhaps you'd be doing even better with a different approach. You shouldn't be surprised by the reception you've received here. It might have been better if you'd come here with the mindset that maybe you'd learn something from other people with type 2 diabetes, rather than coming here just to school us all. Also, the idea that you can tell your blood glucose level from the colour of your urine is preposterous and does not add to your credibility.

I recommend that you check out this site: www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

It has pretty much everything you need to know about type 2 diabetes.
 
carina62 said:
I have managed to lower my Hbaic from 8.1% to 6.9% (due to low carbing) and my GP was very pleased...........but my cholesterol has gone up to 5.6 despite the fact that I am on 40mg of Atorvastatin. He said ideally he would like to see it at 4, any suggestions how I can lower it? I am going to start eating porridge for breakfast now and see if that makes a difference.

Any other suggestions on how to lower it please? thanks
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I take Lecigran (Soya Lecithin granules) from the healthfood shop. Coincidence or not, I believe mine's gone down from about 6 to 5.1; the stress in my life has also reduced, though, which I believe can be a factor.
 
Fionaerwin said:
I haven't had to take any testing of blood or urine for 8/9 years now
Only time is every 6 months at the surgery
That's my proof that the guidance in the book works.
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I'm rather intrigued. So, based on your 6-monthly Hba1C, you are confident, and so is your doctor, that your glucose levels are OK? You don't test before or after meals on the basis that you know your control of your glucose levels are fine?

How do you know how your body responds to different foods? How do you know which foods, at what time of day, will raise your glucose levels or not? I'm Type 2 and, yes, I test my glucose levels having bought myself a glucometer several years ago. I'm now prescribed meter and test strips because of the medication I now take which can cause hypos and so had some idea of how my glucose levels were.

The Hba1C is, basically, an average of your glucose levels but this will not show any peaks/troughs, ie spikes and low levels. So, an Hba1c would not show whether you've had spikes or a straight line and this is what worries me, in general. If your glucose levels were to be checked every five minutes, 24 hours every day, there would be lots of peaks and troughs, even in a non-diabetic.

So, I can't see how you can know your glucose level without testing.
 
I find carbs the pits for stupidly high blood glucose levels which is a great shame since I love potatoes doh
 
Fionaerwin said:
Porridge is a great start
Also look at your portion size, amazing what 23grms of rice/pasta reduction can help reduce your cholesterol
One of the items in the "book" is that mashed potatoes are not as good as boiled potatoes
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Maybe for you since you don't measure your BG. By testing with a glucometer after eating porridge, I found out very quickly that it spikes my BG very rapidly and very high. It's been off my menu ever since.
 
Be careful with the porridge for brekkie....it has the potential for driving some serious spikes, so test before and after at 1 & 2 hours until you're comfortable that your BG remains stable.

Certainly if you find it ok, it will help with the cholesterol.

To comment further we'd need to know:

Your HDL

LDL

Trigs

Standard ratios

If you've managed to drop your cholesterol by reducing carb intake, it will have invariably had a positive impact on the overall quality impact of your cholesterol:)
 
Energize said:
I'm rather intrigued. So, based on your 6-monthly Hba1C, you are confident, and so is your doctor, that your glucose levels are OK? You don't test before or after meals on the basis that you know your control of your glucose levels are fine?

How do you know how your body responds to different foods? How do you know which foods, at what time of day, will raise your glucose levels or not? I'm Type 2 and, yes, I test my glucose levels having bought myself a glucometer several years ago. I'm now prescribed meter and test strips because of the medication I now take which can cause hypos and so had some idea of how my glucose levels were.

The Hba1C is, basically, an average of your glucose levels but this will not show any peaks/troughs, ie spikes and low levels. So, an Hba1c would not show whether you've had spikes or a straight line and this is what worries me, in general. If your glucose levels were to be checked every five minutes, 24 hours every day, there would be lots of peaks and troughs, even in a non-diabetic.

So, I can't see how you can know your glucose level without testing.
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I'm in the very fortunate position in that I've never been exposed to hypos
Primarily because my partner is and has been type 1 for 43 years and I didn't want to wake up at 2am and munching Detroxal! !!
and wanted to avoid that.
With the fantastic help of my GP (and friend) he guided me towards the contol I now have (and with his insistence with the book) I have reached this fabulous situation
Yes I have spikes but that results in tiredness within 2/3 hours of having puddings
Instead of having 100 grams of rice/pasta etc I've reduced to 40/50 gems and I don't feel hungry
It is no longer a chore but a lifestyle and I think being diagnosed as diabetic probably saved my life and I had a MI some 25 years ago
 
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