Hba1c

kellie lees

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Newly diagnosed in January. My first Hba1c was 46. What does this mean? I was told it was quite good and that the aim is for anywhere between 48 and 53? What does this all mean?

At the minute I can't really carb count as I am honeymooning and my body is still producing insulin. There is no known time frame for this to continue is there? How long could this honeymoon period go on for?

Is it safe to not really carb count at the moment my levels are generally around 7 I get the odd 5 or 6 and the highest I've gone is 10?

It's the long term complication that freak me out the most?

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Hello @kellie lees:) The best thing I can do is tag @daisy1 to provide you with some generic information to get you started; and in the interim; I'll try and answer your queries in the simplest way I can.

All I ask is that you have a read through all the links that I provide and if for some reason they don't make sense, then don't hesitate to ask for further explanation:)

HbA1c, this is what it means:

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html

Also, here is a calculator to tell you the average blood sugar reading which it roughly translates to. Remember that this is PURELY an average - as your BG naturally goes up and down all the time:

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/hba1c-to-blood-sugar-level-converter.html

Your honeymoon period could last for weeks, months and possibly a year or more in rare circumstances. There is no rule of thumb for this I'm afraid...

It's never safe to not carb count, you should always be carb counting as it will inevitably be a critical part of your diabetes management for the rest of your life. What it is important to do though, is monitor your BG correctly, frequently and consistently - as to recognise what your insulin doses are doing to your blood glucose levels. I hope you have a diabetes support team or DSN to assist you through this initial period?

Long term complications are entirely what the name suggests, long term. So for now, it's more beneficial if you focus on the short term and look after "the now". It's a little bit like the saying "look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves", in the essence that if you concentrate on yourself in the short term - that you'll be grand going into the future:)

Good luck and nice meeting you @kellie lees.
 
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Hello @kellie lees - Here are the HBA1C Ranges:

Normal. = Below 42 mmol - Below 6.0%.
Prediabetic. = 42 to 47 mmol - 6.0 to 6.4%.
Diabetic. = 48 mmol or over. - 6.5% or over.
 

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@kellie lees - It means being Prediabetic that your Blood glucose levels are higher than Normal, but not high enough to be classed as Diabetic.
Adopt a Healthier Lifestyle that includes weight loss and more physical activity.
A lot of Forum Members follow the LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) Diet this helps to lower Blood Sugars, lower HBA1C and loose weight too.
Here are the links just click on:
http://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
Have a good read of the information provided by daisy1 and ask questions.
 

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Hi @kellie lees and welcome to the forum, being a type 1 you are not prediabetic unfortunately. Sometimes people in danger of developing type 2 diabetes can change their lifestyle enough to prevent themselves becoming diabetic. @GrantGam has asked @daisy1 to provide information which will help you, please have a good read of that. Welcome to the forum Kellie, you will find lots of support on here. Good luck
 
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@kellie lees

Hello kellie and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

kellie lees

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Thank you for all of your help. I understand I can't be prediabetic being type 1 but my Hba1c of 46 is good then?
 

sally and james

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Thank you for all of your help. I understand I can't be prediabetic being type 1 but my Hba1c of 46 is good then?
Yes and no. A Type 1 diabetic, using insulin, has two things to worry about, being too high, which will lead to complications and being too low, which can result in hypo and (very rarely) even death. It's a very difficult path to follow. The medical profession seems to get more worried about people being low than high and, if you are a driver, DVLA would rather you were a bit high.
Have you heard of Dr Richard Bernstein (google him!) a T1, in his 80's, who believes in keeping very low and thereby avoids all complications. He is a firm believer in low numbers, low amounts of carbs in the diet, requiring low amounts of insulin, which then runs a lower risk of hypo and mistakes in calculations.
I'll now leave it to a T1, but it's a quiet time of day ......
good luck
Sally
 

kellie lees

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Thank you so is my Hba1c too low? It's my first one as I was only diagnosed in January. The consultant seemed happy with it
 

sally and james

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Thank you so is my Hba1c too low? It's my first one as I was only diagnosed in January. The consultant seemed happy with it
If your consultant is happy, you too should be happy. As you learn more, you may decide to set your own goals, but at the moment, be happy, there's nothing to be unhappy about.
Sally
 

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My first one came back at 51 recently and although I was told this is fairly good I can't say there weren't some instances of dropping under 4.0 - have you had many hypos @kellie lees contributing to the average?

The HbA1c is just an average snapshot of the last couple of months - to get an idea of how you're doing you probably need to combine it with some data from your testing. So, for example, if you've had a day mostly in double figures followed by a day with multiple hypos it would average out somewhere in the middle. Whereas if you spent most days in your target range it's reasonable that the HbA1c would come back in that range.

The meter my DSN gave me a few months back allows a programmable target range which we agreed could be 5.0-8.0 (for my purposes driving every day) so it's like a real life game of pong trying to stick between those 2 limits. My HbA1c came back just outside of it so I've probably been a bit aggressive in not dosing enough by worrying about driving so that's something I think I need to be working on this time round.

Don't forget you are just getting started and things can and probably will change over time so you will need to continue using the data from your readings and checks like the HbA1c. Hopefully you can identify some patterns in your readings and work out goals that you can agree with your DSN/consultant.
 
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