kokhongw
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill
Another one saved from "carbs are essential"...although you have not started to enjoy and embrace fats yet

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Morning all. Had my first hba1c last week after dx on 29th june.
I am now at 39.0. I was 53 only 11 weeks before. Thought it would take much much longer to get down. Also lost over 20 kgs.
Thankyou everyone.x
I really dont have to do that at the moment unfortunately. Still got quite a way to go. But I hope to go onto a Mediterranean type diet that is still lchf.
Tbh I hope to use more seasonal, uk foods when I reach that stage.
Thank you everyone for your kind thoughts.
You are absolutely correct. And I am still trying to decide on what and when I shall be eating when I am done with a restrictive diet. And I have been following the eatwell discussion with interest.There is a lot of misunderstanding about what a Mediterranean diet really is - - real foods , lots of oil not much bread or pasta The fact that Americans "bastardised" Italian food to create megga pizza's and plates stacked high with pasta - and that this is served in cheap restaurants for tourists across the Mediterranean, in no way reflects what is going on in a healthy Italian home.
I went into a very traditional Maltese restaurant last year - 7 courses,
antipasta of cured meats, bowl of roast vegetables swimming in olive oil ( which only the Brits in the party asked for bread to mop up), one tiny plate of pasta, small salads, roast suckling pig with not much veg attached, two types of fish in oily sauces.
http://www.cliffordawright.com/caw/tips.php/id/1/
The current deification of the Mediteranean diet is based on the healthy properties of olive oil and took flight when the Italian Olive Oil council persuaded American researchers that a nice holiday on the Italian Coast would be a great plan.
As it happens they were right - They were right because Olive Oil has a Food Insulin Index of 3. I.e. it triggers insulin the least. There is only ONE food with a lower Food Insulin Index number and that is BUTTER with an index of 2.
Butter with its higher proportion of saturated fats, works also to increase HDL and LDL, which is protective of all cause mortality in older people.
Thus In my view a healthy mix of both olive oil and butter is important.
It is a great pity that its not quite so sunny in England and as such the British Butter Council didn't get quite so far!
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Superstar!Morning all. Had my first hba1c last week after dx on 29th june.
I am now at 39.0. I was 53 only 11 weeks before. Thought it would take much much longer to get down. Also lost over 20 kgs.
Thankyou everyone.x
Superstar!
Very glad to have been some help... many others on here helped me so its good to give back..but you did all the work!Thank you. You have been an absolute inspiration. Found out about jason fung from you. Think you have probably changed my life.
I've been thinking of that too. I had a very active childhood yet had all the energy I needed from small portions. All food was in season as the freezer on top of the fridge only held frozen peas. And there was a lot of fat in my diet. I feel really well on LCHF too.You are absolutely correct. And I am still trying to decide on what and when I shall be eating when I am done with a restrictive diet. And I have been following the eatwell discussion with interest.
I have been thinking a lot about the diet I had as a child. On the surface it looks quite a lot like the eatwell guide, but there are significant differences.
There is a lot of fruit in the eatwell guide, but we only had what was in season. No tomato all year.
There is a lot of hidden carbs in eatwell, both veg and fruit and we did not have a lot of that.
We did not have a great deal of diary ( no fridge until I was 13) and tbh there was not a great deal of choice. So no yoghurt, ice cream, most cheese, or smoothies.
No rice unless it was in a pudding and reheated.
No pasta.
Plenty of butter.
Well cooked cheap meat, like mutton.
No treats unless they really were a treat, not every day.
No lemonade or squash.
Above all, no snacks, eating only 3 times a day but only till we had enough.
I am really only thinking aloud, but this diet was not monotonous, lacking in anything or abnormal in anyway. But nobody eats like this anymore. And the eatwell guide does not support it either. But I am thinking I might go back to something like this.
Plus a lot of my food will not have traveled more around the world than I have!
I've been thinking of that too. I had a very active childhood yet had all the energy I needed from small portions. All food was in season as the freezer on top of the fridge only held frozen peas. And there was a lot of fat in my diet. I feel really well on LCHF too.
I've got an allotment now and that will help to keep to seasons. Only problem is spuds off the allotment taste so much nicer! But if I keep it to a treat on Sundays (Not every one either) I'll be ok.I am seriously considering a pre war English diet, only perhaps without as much potato as I remember. I like the lchf its just that a lot of my food travels a very long way before it ends up on my plate. Not a problem for many people but it is for me.
And I like the idea of having " seasons" again. Asparagus season, strawberry season, apples and pears in the autumn.
I dont know how long I can stick at it, but I think I am going to give it a go.