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Hello everyone, I'm new to this site and I'm new to Diabetes. I was given the news at the end of November 2015 (but should have been informed back in August). Not only that but I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol and I'm officially obese. From that moment on I made serious changes, giving up chocolate, bread, potatoes, cake and all the 'bad evil carb' stuff. I also gave up smoking, ending a 30 year relationship. 50 days !! I've been trying to educate myself about T2 but sometimes I feel overwhelmed by the information. However, through diligent monitoring of my eating, increasing my walking and education, I have managed to lose 6.5kg in 6 weeks. I'm very pleased with this but I have a long way to go as my weight has always been a problem. I'm not sure what more to say, other than it would be nice to make contact with people in the same boat as me.

Paula.
 
Hi paula.nolan42. Welcome to the Forum. I will tag @daisy1 and you will receive an information sheet that all newly diagnosed receive. We are a friendly, helpful and some very knowledgeable crowd on here, so ask questions and some one will answer. :)
 
welcome to the forums and well done giving the smokes up, 4 1/2 month off them here after a 32 year relasionship with them
 
Hello everyone, I'm new to this site and I'm new to Diabetes. I was given the news at the end of November 2015 (but should have been informed back in August). Not only that but I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol and I'm officially obese. From that moment on I made serious changes, giving up chocolate, bread, potatoes, cake and all the 'bad evil carb' stuff. I also gave up smoking, ending a 30 year relationship. 50 days !! I've been trying to educate myself about T2 but sometimes I feel overwhelmed by the information. However, through diligent monitoring of my eating, increasing my walking and education, I have managed to lose 6.5kg in 6 weeks. I'm very pleased with this but I have a long way to go as my weight has always been a problem. I'm not sure what more to say, other than it would be nice to make contact with people in the same boat as me.

Paula.

Well done so far Paula. A kilo a week is a good steady approach.

Do you test your own blood at home? For me, I found it gave me immediate feedback on the steps I was taking, and allowed me to modify my approach along the way, without waiting several months for a new Doc based blood test. It also motivated me to stick with it when I got fed up and could easily have gone into reverse gear. Looking back through my records reminded me how it could be without control.

Good luck with it all.
 
@paula.nolan42

Hello Paula and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Paula and welcome to the forum. It sounds as though you have made a brilliant start. Well done all round, I'd say. The forum isn't just about information , though there's plenty of that here. It's also a good place to come when your motivation has slipped and you need some encouragement. The contributors are genuinely thoughtful and kind and it's really useful to talk to people who have personal experience of the condition and the problems people face when trying to change their lifestyles.

My advice would be to take things slowly, consider that everyone is different and work towards understanding what your own body is telling you. You don't need to know every last fact today or be some kind of saint and meet every target. You've made a great start so just keep doing what your doing for the moment while you learn more.

All the best. Dougie.
 
welcome to the forums and well done giving the smokes up, 4 1/2 month off them here after a 32 year relasionship with them

Thanks Gaz

Did you quit cold turkey or did you use patches ? What about vaping ? I have used patches just a few times, when I felt my sanity was in danger !!
 
Well done so far Paula. A kilo a week is a good steady approach.

Do you test your own blood at home? For me, I found it gave me immediate feedback on the steps I was taking, and allowed me to modify my approach along the way, without waiting several months for a new Doc based blood test. It also motivated me to stick with it when I got fed up and could easily have gone into reverse gear. Looking back through my records reminded me how it could be without control.

Good luck with it all.

Hi AndBreathe, no I don't test my blood at home, and now that I think about it I'm not sure why. I'm with my doctor on Tuesday and I'm going to ask her about it
 
Thanks Dougie22

It'll be great to explore the forum and find people and information, that as you say, will provide support and encouragement.

For me the first few weeks have been about breaking old bad habits and creating a new pattern for myself, finding any info, recipe, meme, or anything that supports me, it's all good.

I'm certainly looking forward to getting to know the people here.
 
Hi paula.nolan42. I have not "officially" stopped smoking cigarettes - last time I smoked one was 3 days ago! I took up last year using a vapouriser and my GP, Endocrinologist and Diabetic Nurse all endorse me using a vapouriser. I used to smoke 20 a day - I don't even smoke 20 a week now!! I do use only tobacco flavour - don't go for all these flavours that you see on sale. Never thought I would take to it, but my Asthma is the best it's ever been.:D
 
Hi AndBreathe, no I don't test my blood at home, and now that I think about it I'm not sure why. I'm with my doctor on Tuesday and I'm going to ask her about it

Unless you are taking insulin, or other stronger drugs, like Gliclazide, it isn't too routine for the Doc to suggest testing. In fact, some, including my then Doc, were actively against it. However, as I intimated before, how would I know how I was doing regarding my bloods? Losing weight should help with your blood control, but it is only part of the picture.

When first diagnosed I only had one objective, and that was to bring my bloods into line. If I lost weight, that was a bonus. Never being very overweight, it wasn't a great concern, but as I started modifying my diet, my love handles just melted away, without any effort.

If your Doc will not sponsor your testing (and to repeat, most don't), then you should seriously consiider buying a meter and strips yourself. It is noteworthy that the thing to consider when it comes to cost is that the meter is a one-off cost, whereas the strips we need to keep buying. Many people here, including me, buy the Codefree meter from this site: http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/

Strips for this meter are between under £6-£7 for 50. There are discounts available for buying 5 or 10 pots at the same time.

For me, testing was the best thing I did for my diabetes, because it helped me really understand what I needed to do.

Good luck with it all.
 
Thanks Gaz

Did you quit cold turkey or did you use patches ? What about vaping ? I have used patches just a few times, when I felt my sanity was in danger !!
I used the patches and gum for 7 weeks but started having a bad reaction on my skin, so just used the gum and a vapour (12mg) now on 6mg bottles and the next lot will be 0 nicotine :)
 
Hi. Welcome to the site. I feel I am getting very boring now advising "newbies" to looks seriously at low carb high fat dieting...bit, well..it lowers the blood sugar level more effectively than anything else I have come across. I wanted to throw in my tuppence worth of advice as I think, noticing the stopping smoking comments, that the best approach to giving up the foods which have impact on the blood sugar levels is not unlike the best approach to giving up other things we have come to be dependent on as manufacturers/corporations like us to be good little hooked consumers. I stopped smoking about 2 year ago (that's about 35 years of intimacy with nicotine) not by will power, not by thinking it was bad for me (understatement) but because I realised fags were a deliberately designed delivery system for a highly addictive drug...and I refused to keep giving scum my money for keeping me hooked on something that had absolutely nothing but negative impact on me. When you realise that, for example, if you take the sugar out of most cereals they have the same nutritional value as cardboard, and that food companies have gotten us used to lots of simple carbohydrates that we just don't need...so they can keep us buying their products (as simple carbs break down into sugars in the blood and have the same impact as sugar itself in raising our blood sugar levels....if not actually causing diabetes Type 2)...then...maybe the same kind of approach can be applied..and we can all stop smoking and eating damaging rubbish. No will power required. Good luck Paul
 
To be honest, giving up smoking wasn't ever part of the plan, in recent years my smoking had reduced anyway - I just didn't have time to smoke - but I did have very specific times to smoke - very habitual. What happened was I gave myself a nasty dose of food poisoning just after the diabetes diagnosis and I was laid up for 5 days. At that stage I realised I hadn't smoked and I thought that I'd see how long I could last just a day at a time and that was 50 days ago.

With regard to the LCHF approach to food management, yes I agree. It probably is the best approach. Before my diagnosis my daily diet was made up of peanut-butter sandwiches and chocolate and white wine and bread and cakes and peanut-butter and chocolate and did I mention peanut-butter, oh and about 10 cups of coffee a day (with sugar). Not that I don't like good healthy food, I love all food, but I got into a rut of bad eating and just wallowed in my weight-gain. I didn't care what I ate as long as I was always munching on something.

That has all had to change, and my mantra has to be - 'If the Veg is Green then I'm getting lean' - I'm cooking fresh every day - eating fish and chicken - making the right choices. No ready-meals no junk. Except for popcorn.

Giving up the smokes has been far easier than giving up the junk - I miss eating what I want when I want it.
 
Hi paula.nolan42. I am told by the Diabetic Consultant at the Hospital that I've to be strict during the week (Mon to Fri) and come the weekend - I CAN have 1 slice of cake or 1 Mars Bar, but not go mad! Moderation is the key word here.:)
 
As with others, my doctor strongly advised against home BG testing, as did the diabetes specialist nurse. Their attitude was that it was unnecessary, too much trouble, costly and painful. Stick to the NHS diet (relatively high carb), lose some weight, take some exercise and come back in six months to a year, when we'll see how well you did from an HbA1c test. What nonsense!

I took the view that the management of diabetes was down to me and that I needed to know what worked and what didn't without six to nine months elapsing each time. I started testing immediately, and learned what was happening in my own body over the next weeks and months. It was the single best thing I did in this whole diabetes adventure and I'd wholeheartedly recommend that you follow this path when you are ready. Cost of test strips is very important. For that reason I use a "Code-Free" meter with 50 strips for about £7.00 a time. There's plenty of advice here on when to do it and what to look for in your results.

I also changed my doctor surgery but that's another story.
 
Hey Paula. Well done with your progress so far and you positive attitude. I am also recently diagnosed and packed in the ciggies too. I found NHS quit smoking clinic really good and have had patches and mouth spray on free prescription, along with an occasional vape. 12 weeks now and it's all good. Never thought I'd do it after 45 years (eeek). Oh, and I've lost nearly 6 kilos. Anyway, keep it up- you're doing great. Jan x
 
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