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Discussion in 'Reactive Hypoglycemia' started by Alicki, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. Alicki

    Alicki Reactive hypoglycemia · Well-Known Member

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    Sounds you ve had rough time too
     
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    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    Thats if they know what they are doing!
    Most GPs are not trained in blood glucose disorders or metabolic syndrome or even types of diabetes. Even my surgery GP diabetic specialist(about ten years ago) didn't have a clue, what was going on and told me to eat healthy or complex carbs.
    So I did and I put more weight on!
    I wonder why?
     
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    DanteNXS Reactive hypoglycemia · Active Member

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    What do you think about superfood powders? (Spirulina, Cocoa, etc)

    Also, I just took my mid morning BG (30m after meal) it is 114. All I am eating at the moment is lots of veg, with a plant based protein shake with water and coconut oil. Breaky was loads of veggies w/organic walnuts, cashews, and almonds with water.
     
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    Alicki Reactive hypoglycemia · Well-Known Member

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    The video is a god -send. According to this, the hyperinsulin strikes me out as being diabetic which would then explain all the symptoms and thirst.
    Nosher8355: the way out is low-carb isnt it and weight loss? I think that sur what i musts do! Thank you all. In two-three days, I havé learnt so much and Will prépare questions for specialist
     
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    Brunneria Other · Guru
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    Well, cocoa should (obviously) be treated as an entire Food Group in itself. ;)

    I have tried a number of different eating regimes along the way (35 years of trying to find something that works) and I have eaten my share of superfoods (especially in my green smoothie phase). I am sure that there are lots of them that give helpful trace elements, but for me, the thing that has made the biggest and best difference is cutting those carbs down low enough to get rid of the RH symptoms.

    Nowadays, I look on it as a whole lifestyle thing. Enough exercise, water, sleep, good, fresh, varied, low carb foods, no more than (insert your personal no.) grams of carbs. Minimal processed foods.

    I found I was Vit D deficient (lab test), so supplement that, with K2 (so the Vit D actually works). Also take chromium, potassium, magnesium, omega 3 (krill) oil. and alpha lipoic acid. But all those supplements are because I did research, tried them and found I felt better because of them. I don't do the eating-supplements-like-sweets-thing, because I feel that kind of scattergun effect often does more harm than good.

    Have you seen this link:
    It kind of captures the essence of my thoughts about eating nowadays.
    http://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds
    And it certainly works for me.
    The only thing that doesn't work for me is the weight loss - but then I have other hormone stuff going on other than RH which kind of muddies the waters, so don't have high expectations of it in that department
     
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    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    That's not a bad number really, just up above normal after 30 mins.
    @Brunneria is the specialist green smoothie.
    Maybe she has tips.
     
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    DanteNXS Reactive hypoglycemia · Active Member

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    Thanks again.

    I am very new to all this and your feedback is much appreciated. I too take much of the same supplements that you take, based on my deficiencies, and hopefully it is working, as I do feel better now, then I did months ago. But I have been misdiagnosed so many times, it's scary. Conventional doctors are a joke, for the most part.

    I lost 40 pounds in 3 months, and was an emotional wreck for 4+ months. My weight has stabilized, but my ability to exercise has been a roller-coaster ride, some weeks I can do it, some weeks I cannot. In your opinion, what is the best time to exercise, to avoid almost fainting/dizziness?

    I had my bodyfat measured today and it was 26%, which is 5-10% higher than I would like it to be, but I am not sure what to do. 26% is just barely considered obese, 25% being the high for average.
     
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    Alicki Reactive hypoglycemia · Well-Known Member

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    Alicki Reactive hypoglycemia · Well-Known Member

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    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    I have found the best time is shortly after eating.
    Haven't got the science, but I walk or work after breakfast and again in the evening, unless I've been on my feet on all day.
    Just an hour a day or even an extra half hour constitutional around the block actually helps regulate your levels.
    Strenuous exercise causes liver dumps, the last thing you need when blood levels are erratic and fluctuating is your liver giving you a glucose boost.
     
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    DanteNXS Reactive hypoglycemia · Active Member

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    Thanks, I'll try that. 10 months ago, prior to all these issues, I was exercising twice a day and was in fairly good shape. Over the past 10 months, I have not been able to do much more than walk 1-2 miles a day, or nothing at all, due to the symptoms I'd encounter. It is so frustrating and kind of scary.
     
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    Lamont D Reactive hypoglycemia · Master

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    It is scary!
    It's worse not knowing. Or when our so called health practitioners haven't got a clue!

    I think that you may yet have to go through the stage of realising that you have a condition that there is no cure as yet!
    But the treatment is there and it works!
    You can get your life back!
     
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    Yup, that is a short overview of what happens when we have too much insulin. It is good that Kraft's work is now being approached by different people, but it is tragic that this info has been available for 30+ years, and most docs have STILL never heard of it. :(

    The basic message (that I get out of it) is avoid high insulin levels by not eating foods that trigger insulin release in the body. I completely acknowledge that I am like a stuck record on this. :D

    If you can, the long You Tube vid with the Fat Emperor and Kraft himself is well worth the time.
     
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    DanteNXS Reactive hypoglycemia · Active Member

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    Oh trust me, I have come to the realization that I have a condition, but like you, it would have been much better if my conventional doctor's would have had a clue several months ago. I have always known something was amiss with my health, since the beginning of this, even though they kept telling me everything was "normal". I wish there was a legal punishment for misdiagnoses. LOL! (well, it's not really funny)
     
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    Alicki Reactive hypoglycemia · Well-Known Member

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    Kraft works puts me in the diabetic range (high insulin after two hours), which therefore explains diabetics syndromes. Lunch was high carb (testing my new meter), I went up to 8.2. Low carb dinner 5.9. I'm beginning to get the hang on this....!
     
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    DanteNXS Reactive hypoglycemia · Active Member

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    So, I had to mow my lawn yesterday and I waited 20 minutes after eating to do it. I was fine for most of the task, but about 15 minutes into it, I started feeling a bit lightheaded, but I finished up the last bit. Afterwards I was a wreck and my BG was down to 81, which by no means is bad, but it is the lowest mine has ever been after a meal. I was not feeling good, so I laid down for about an hour or so, it helped a bit, but not much. Also, my HR and BP have been elevated these past few days. Is that normal?
     
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    I would say this comes under the be gentle to yourself while you adjust umbrella. You are in the process of asking your body to switch its function, and fuel and responses from habits that have developed over months, if not years (before you were aware).

    Have you heard about false hypos? This is where the body is used to being at a certain bg, and reacts with what seem like actual hypo symptoms, even though the numbers still look OK.

    It is a transition lots of us (T1s, 2s and RHers) go through. The easiest and most comfortable way to go through the phase is to take yourself down gently, enabling you to acclimatise yourself at each stage. This takes time.

    The problem we RHers have (and I am only realising this as more and more RHers turn up on these threads) is that once we acclimate back to 'normal' figs, we find that even straying a wee bit lower puts the body into Panic Stations. I think @Kaz261 will probably agree with this! :)

    I am guessing, but I think that our RHbodies develop hair trigger hypo reactions (release of all the stress hormones to trigger a gycogen/glucose dump from the liver).

    @DanteNXS you may have gone through this after your gardening - but remember, I am just speculating.

    The important thing to remember is that if you treat the feeling with carbs, to bring your bg back up, only use small amounts. Otherwise you risk shooting up too high, and then starting the RH cycle off again. Not easy, when your body is screaming for carbs like mine does during a hypo or false hypo!

    Hope that helps, even if half of it is me rambling and speculating. :)
     
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    DanteNXS Reactive hypoglycemia · Active Member

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    Thank you very much Brunneria, that does help.

    I was aware enough to not consume too many carbs in response to the event. I ate a small amount cheese and nuts, which didn't really help much, and just rested. My BG this morning was 89, which was the lowest it has ever been for me, and I fell ok, not great though. Another issue I am seeing is that I have mild heartburn upon waking up, which must indicate this is occurring in my sleep. Any ideas on that?

    DanteNXS
     
  19. Brunneria

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    sorry - no input into the heartburn at all. the only time I have experienced it I was eating wheat. When I stopped the grains, the heartburn magically disappeared.

    You have my sympathies - it is horrible.
     
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    DanteNXS Reactive hypoglycemia · Active Member

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    One more question. How much should my BG go up/down 1 hour after a meal? What is the acceptable limits?

    Thanks,

    DanteNXS
     
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