Help Cure Reactive Hypoglycemia

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thanks for the response Lamont, after reading more and more of your posts, and Brunneria's and feelin the way I do I can understand what you have been through and I've only been at it for a few weeks. I'm in a bad place now, where I don't know what the issue is, I have been referred to an endocrinologist, but as you may know, the NHS is swamped at this particular time so I guess will be a long while before I get to see someone. But the anxiety of not knowing what it is, is it a tumor? is it diabetes? insuline resistance? kills me on the inside.

I have found a pattern to my hypos, and they all have smth to do with the first meal of the day. Although I did have a couple during the night where the freestyle libre would beep an alarm, those resolved themselves without having to eat anything (so could be down to lying on the sensor or going into REM sleep). But the morning/ just before lunch ones, are just horrible. This morning I had yoghurt with blueberries a banana and a handful of walnuts (not sure if it's the banana or not), after just 1 hour, as I`m coming back home from a short walk to take littlun to nursery, in about 7 minutes I dropped from 5.1 mmol/L to 3.8 mmol/L. Wasn't even a big spike from pre-meal, the highest reading was around 6.6 mmol/L with finger prick test and 7.9 mmol/L with the freestyle libre CGM. I should add that I start feeling hypo symptoms at around 4.5ish. I had some fruit, banana, apple, small tangerine and a pear to correct it, and i felt it coming right back down after that correction, dreadful experience. had cup of milk, then ate 2 fried eggs with sausage, some fried mushrooms and 2 small sourdough slices of bread and after as much as an hour my blood sugars are back up around 7mmol/L and I feel a bit better, but I dread the next day. What I hate the most is how quickly and sharp it drops with no warning.

I am now at the point of thinking that all this healthy eating ******** has destroyed my metabolism, had water porridge with blueberries and banana for the last few years every morning, had almost no more than 1-2 eggs a month, no milk, v little amounts of saturated fats and limited meat intake quite a lot despite being active. Got to the point where I felt v tired especially after footy and blamed it all on my thyroid.

I am just hoping that I can sort my metabolism back if it's out of whack from all the spikes I had eating naked carbs every morning and lunch and dinner. If there is a thread on what u guys eat I'd appreciate if you could give me the link. Many thanks and I feel for you all...
 

Lamont D

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Type of diabetes
Reactive hypoglycemia
Treatment type
I do not have diabetes
thanks for the response Lamont, after reading more and more of your posts, and Brunneria's and feelin the way I do I can understand what you have been through and I've only been at it for a few weeks. I'm in a bad place now, where I don't know what the issue is, I have been referred to an endocrinologist, but as you may know, the NHS is swamped at this particular time so I guess will be a long while before I get to see someone. But the anxiety of not knowing what it is, is it a tumor? is it diabetes? insuline resistance? kills me on the inside.

I have found a pattern to my hypos, and they all have smth to do with the first meal of the day. Although I did have a couple during the night where the freestyle libre would beep an alarm, those resolved themselves without having to eat anything (so could be down to lying on the sensor or going into REM sleep). But the morning/ just before lunch ones, are just horrible. This morning I had yoghurt with blueberries a banana and a handful of walnuts (not sure if it's the banana or not), after just 1 hour, as I`m coming back home from a short walk to take littlun to nursery, in about 7 minutes I dropped from 5.1 mmol/L to 3.8 mmol/L. Wasn't even a big spike from pre-meal, the highest reading was around 6.6 mmol/L with finger prick test and 7.9 mmol/L with the freestyle libre CGM. I should add that I start feeling hypo symptoms at around 4.5ish. I had some fruit, banana, apple, small tangerine and a pear to correct it, and i felt it coming right back down after that correction, dreadful experience. had cup of milk, then ate 2 fried eggs with sausage, some fried mushrooms and 2 small sourdough slices of bread and after as much as an hour my blood sugars are back up around 7mmol/L and I feel a bit better, but I dread the next day. What I hate the most is how quickly and sharp it drops with no warning.

I am now at the point of thinking that all this healthy eating ******** has destroyed my metabolism, had water porridge with blueberries and banana for the last few years every morning, had almost no more than 1-2 eggs a month, no milk, v little amounts of saturated fats and limited meat intake quite a lot despite being active. Got to the point where I felt v tired especially after footy and blamed it all on my thyroid.

I am just hoping that I can sort my metabolism back if it's out of whack from all the spikes I had eating naked carbs every morning and lunch and dinner. If there is a thread on what u guys eat I'd appreciate if you could give me the link. Many thanks and I feel for you all...

Hi again,
The transformation to low carb can be lengthy and you will still be getting symptoms similar to going high and low, until you get into normal blood sugar levels constantly, this will still be happening. Becoming fat adapted and in or close to continuous in ketosis.
The first meal is important because that will have an effect on your day, so the longer you don't spike and trigger the reaction and overshoot, the more you will feel normal.
My real first experience was during the fasting test, it was so good that I started to research more. That is why I use intermittent fasting.
I can see by your post, that you like fruit and in my experience, you could be having too much, portion size is crucial in how you can have fruit. I have found out that some fruit is definitely out such as bananas and other tropical fruits, a small Apple or pear could be okay, the berries are the best bet as long as it's not too much.
We use a saying, eat to your meter, this means you can see if the food is causing spikes and monitor how much you can eat of that food. This is one of the reasons why a food diary is useful.
More and more diabetics on here are recommending dietdoctor.com, this is a great resource for doing low carb. And I would suggest that trying to go as low as possible is the best treatment for a long term condition.
Not knowing is hard, but there will be no harm done until you do get a diagnosis to improve your health by going low carb, you are still eating certain foods which could still be triggering a reaction.
For me, exercise can be an issue because of when you feel tired, the liver will supplement the energy used by giving a liver dump, and this will give you a spike.

Until you have the knowledge of how your body responds by trial and error, experimenting, experience, testing, recording, testing and discovering what effects your blood sugar levels, can you understand what is happening.
Your metabolism is already out of balance, your hormonal response is not right for some reason, and your body will automatically be trying to get that balance, hence the symptoms, and not having hypos is the aim, and the only way for me was being in ketosis and not eating carbs!

If your specialist is savvy with Hypoglycaemia, you should get the tests necessary to get some diagnostic results. Let me know how you do, and if you have read the threads, you will know what tests to have. The first is full blood panel test, then an extended oral glucose test (5 hours not 2!) From there depends on results.

We do have a forum on low carb.

Keep safe and be positive.