Help HbA1c is highest ever!

RedElaine1990

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I have type 2 diabetes. Just yesterday at my yearly review had to have a serious chat with nurse. My readings of 48 HbA1c last year have doubled to 84 this year. I'm devastated but have been given 3months grace before changing meds. Any meal ideas or other advice please need to turn this back round for 3 months time and keep it there.

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Rachox

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I'm no expert (yet!), but I think if you let us know what meds you're on and examples of your daily diet, there'll be loads of help for you. With all the assistance from the lovely people here, I've managed to get my HbA1c down from 70 to 45 in nine weeks. I'm sure you can get yours down too. @daisy1 will post loads of useful links for you
 

Bluetit1802

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Hi and welcome,

I agree, please tell us your diabetes medication, and a day's typical menu. Also, do you have your own blood glucose meter? If not, you need to buy one urgently!
 
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RedElaine1990

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I have type 2 diabetes. Just yesterday at my yearly review had to have a serious chat with nurse. My readings of 48 HbA1c last year have doubled to 84 this year. I'm devastated but have been given 3months grace before changing meds. Any meal ideas or other advice please need to turn this back round for 3 months time and keep it there.

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I take Metformin 4 500mg daily
 

Kristin251

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It's easier to say what you CAN have rather than can't. Most of these I'll list you can eat but get a home meter.
All sources of animal/ fish protein.. fish , poultry, red meats, eggs etc. Just be careful if you buy processed sausages etc ass they can have some pretty carbs fillers and sugars.

All above ground veggies. Veg that grow below ground are too carby for a lot of us so we either don't eat them or carefully watch portion control. Here's where your meter comes in

Healthy fats. Avocado, olive oil, olives, nuts ( careful with peanuts) full fat dairy.

Fruit is off for some of us but berries would be best. Tropical fruits worst.

Most everything else is a wild card and you will need to test your bloods.

Again, it would be helpful to see what's you're eating now. Maybe we can make suggestions for much lower carb versions.

Edited to take an s out of ass.
 
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Phoenix55

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Hi @RedElaine1990 and welcome to the forum. Please get yourself a meter if you do not have one already. A lot of people on here use codefree, but look for yourself and try to find one with the cheapest strips as these are the ongoing expense and you will need to keep buying these. In the meantime Kristin251 has given sound advice about what to eat but you do need a meter to check what you can eat because we are all different. There are a lot of success stories I have read on here so please do not feel down, there is a lot that you can do and in a few weeks you will surprise your nurse. Have you been following the 'eatwell' plate?
 

AM1874

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Hi @RedElaine1990 .. and welcome
You have certainly made a good move coming here .. since joining this forum the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

You have already made a positive start in dealing with your T2 diagnosis .. but the key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes (or pre-diabetes) through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that @Rachox has already tagged @ daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following Diet Doctor websites which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

It is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

Unless you are prescribed test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £38.45
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £76.90
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps
 

JohnEGreen

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Just to say don't panic there are lots of options open to you. As you can see from previous posts.

And add the Tee2 from spirit healthcare is free on their web site shop.
 
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daisy1

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@RedElaine1990


Hello Elaine and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 245,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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