Hi im carol just been told i have type 2 diabetes with a reading of 12.4 & being told by doc that it should be below 11 & i need to diet, but im so confused, my friend says thats high & has always been told to aim for 7 which is heaven, has the guidelines changed & what am i supposed to eat & not eat, can someone help ? :?
help im so confused
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carol welcome to the forum.
were you diagnosed though a glucose tolerance test? if so maybe you have misunderstood your gp as it sounds to me that your gp was telling you that your diabetic because your reading was 12.4 after the glucose and should be below 11 if your not diabetic.
apologies if im wrong it was just a theory.
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were you diagnosed though a glucose tolerance test? if so maybe you have misunderstood your gp as it sounds to me that your gp was telling you that your diabetic because your reading was 12.4 after the glucose and should be below 11 if your not diabetic.
apologies if im wrong it was just a theory.
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hi, yea had a fasting blood test, then a sugar drink & had to wait at docs for 2hrs for another blood test after that, thats where the results come from.
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Hi Carol and welcome to the forum.
Here are the NICE recommendations for T2 diabetics.
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l
These numbers are the highest that you should see so obviously the lower you can get them the better but don't panic it probably wont happen overnight.
Heres the information given to new members here:
We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.
It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.
For more information on CARBOHYDRATE see here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20306&start=0
This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.
The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.
If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.
The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.
Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.
When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.
As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!
For TIPS FOR STRIPS see here:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19002&start=0
If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.
The latest 2011 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l...(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)
2hrs after meals......................... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)
If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.
It also helps if you can do at least 30 minutes moderate exercise a day, it can be split into 10 min sessions to start with. It doesn't have to be strenuous.
The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.
Finally a few QUESTIONS TO ASK AT DIABETES CLINIC.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091&start=0
Have a good look around and then feel free to ask any questions you may have, I'm sure their will be many
But the most important thing is to remember you are not alone and thousands of people live quite happily with their diabetes without it overly affecting their lives. A wise person once said "control your diabetes dont let your diabetes control you"
Here are the NICE recommendations for T2 diabetics.
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l
These numbers are the highest that you should see so obviously the lower you can get them the better but don't panic it probably wont happen overnight.
Heres the information given to new members here:
We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.
It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.
For more information on CARBOHYDRATE see here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20306&start=0
This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.
The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.
If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.
The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.
Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.
When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.
As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!
For TIPS FOR STRIPS see here:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19002&start=0
If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.
The latest 2011 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l...(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)
2hrs after meals......................... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)
If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.
It also helps if you can do at least 30 minutes moderate exercise a day, it can be split into 10 min sessions to start with. It doesn't have to be strenuous.
The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.
Finally a few QUESTIONS TO ASK AT DIABETES CLINIC.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091&start=0
Have a good look around and then feel free to ask any questions you may have, I'm sure their will be many
But the most important thing is to remember you are not alone and thousands of people live quite happily with their diabetes without it overly affecting their lives. A wise person once said "control your diabetes dont let your diabetes control you"
here is the criateria for diagnosing type following a gluocose tolerance test.
•Fasting plasma venous glucose ≥7.0 mmol/l (126 mg/dl)
OR
•2-hour oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT) (with 75g glucose) plasma venous glucose ≥11.1 mmol/l (200 mg/dl)
I think your doctor was explaining to you should be below 11 if you were not diabetic and explaining your diagnosis of why you diabetic.
discuss it with your doctor but I dont think they were telling you keep below 11 as a means of controlling your diabetes.
•Fasting plasma venous glucose ≥7.0 mmol/l (126 mg/dl)
OR
•2-hour oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT) (with 75g glucose) plasma venous glucose ≥11.1 mmol/l (200 mg/dl)
I think your doctor was explaining to you should be below 11 if you were not diabetic and explaining your diagnosis of why you diabetic.
discuss it with your doctor but I dont think they were telling you keep below 11 as a means of controlling your diabetes.
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Hiya carol, welcome to us all on here, Just like to say you will feel confused and probably overwhelmed with all the facts and well meaning advice you hear and read. It can bamboozle the brain! :shock: Best to take time to let some of it sink in n make sense over the next few days, go easy with yourself and over time it will become part of your routine and daily life. Any questions or help or support just pop back and ask, we're here to support and help you along . Anna.x
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Snap! I was 12.4 at diagnosis-it was a blood sugar level test. Today at doc's I got fasting test results blood sugar was same as hbwhatsit count (the average over 3 months) at 5.8. So in only a couple of months I've come from where you are to achieving non-diabetic readings. I have no secret (well not from friends anyway!) I just cut out bread as much as I could and increased my cardio work at the gym. I've lost weight by using common sense works for me! I think the secret is to be totally honest with yourself you know your weaknesses food wise so find a way around them!
