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Boudica1958

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Hi there anyone, I’m hoping to achieve some help on here, hopefully little more than the diabetic nurse who gave me no help but for a pile of leaflets, diagnosed 2 days ago, had no idea but followed a blood test for cholesterol, I am gutted the nurse gave me a diet sheet which contained diets of food which I hardly eat anyway, lots of sugar in it of which I consume very little anyway, the diet would be double at least of the amount of sugar I consume in the last two days I have cut out all sugar and carbs which I read I have to do, the problem is the weight is just falling off me, to carry on like this I will be walking through cracks in doors in six months! I have always lost weight very easily if ever needed, I weigh just over 8 stone. I never had any symptoms of diabetes which I think is why this has hit me like a sledge hammer yesterday my eyes have ..... mmmmmm. Hard to describe but feel glazed any advice would be so very much appreciated, thank you in anticipation
 
Welcome to the forum, tagging @daisy1 for the welcome pack. Do you know your HbA1c number?

Do you have a glucose meter?
 
Welcome to the forum, tagging @daisy1 for the welcome pack. Do you know your HbA1c number?

Do you have a glucose meter?
Do you know I have no idea is that my blood result if so it was 7.7 I wasn’t given hardly any info just sent away with pile of leaflets, don’t know which direction to go in no I don’t have a meter but after reading this site I think I will mostdef get one!
 
When you next visit your surgery, ask for a printout and keep it for your records. Some people are able to view their records online.

I use the Tee2 as their strips are a reasonable price. If you phone the makers and order 200 strips they will probably chuck in the meter for free. Remember to claim your diabetic and you won't have to pay VAT. Bank on using about 200 strips a month. Before you get out of bed, before you eat and two hours after the first bite. Last one at bed time.

Download mySugr app and record your numbers and the food you eat. After a few days it will give you an estimated HbA1c. I found it highly motivating. Testing is not forever.
 
Please don't worry about losing weight by reducing or cutting out carbs. You have to increase your good fats and protein, which will add the necessary calories to keep your weight where you want it. It is a fine balancing act, and may take a few weeks to find the right balance, but if you keep a food diary including portion sizes, use your bathroom scales regularly, and of course a blood glucose meter, you will find that balance. There are a lot of us on this forum that have had to do that. I did it well over 4 years ago now and have maintained my ideal weight since then.

I agree you should ask for a print out of your blood test results. These will also include your cholesterol levels (HDL/LDL/Truiglycerides). If you are in England they should be on line, so you can ask about this and how to register for this service.
 
Hi Boudica 1958 and welcome to this community.
You clearly want to deal with your D2 problem and that is more than half the battle.
Surf these forums and you will get all the information you need. Most of us ignore NHS advice as they insist that you should get around 60% of your energy from carbs. You do have to undo everything you have ever learned about fat being bad for you. The latest thinking is that it's much healthier to get you energy from fat than carbs. Up your fat intake and your weight loss should stabilise.
 
Welcome.

I’m assuming you don’t want to lose any weight from your comments? You do need to add more fats to your diet to make up for the carbs you no longer eat with things that won’t cause blood sugar rises. I know that sounds so wrong according to what’s been taught for the last few decades but it works. It stops you feeling hungry for longer than carbs too. It’ll probably take a while to find the balance but if you eat enough fats, and to some degree more proteins too then weight loss should stop without messing up bloods.
 
Hi,
Welcome to the forum,
Sorry to hear about your diagnosis, like the others have said increasing fats should hopefully keep your weight more stable.
I have a Tee2 monitor as well, luckily I'm prescribed sticks as I'm on insulin.
Hope you achieve non-diabetic levels very soon.
Please ask any questions that you might have.
Take care
 
the nurse gave me a diet sheet which contained diets of food which I hardly eat anyway, lots of sugar in it of which I consume very little anyway, the diet would be double at least of the amount of sugar I consume in the last two days

So, was your normal pre diagnosis diet fairly low carb?
 
Hi and welcome @Boudica1958. Looks like you have been given great advice already. Have a look around the forum. Ask any questions that come into your head. You will not come across a friendlier bunch of people. What they dont know about diabetes isn't worth knowing.

If you get chance watch a video (YouTube). Dr Jason Fung. How to reverse diabetes. Its excellent. If you read this book is brilliant too 'the diabetes code'.
 
@Boudica1958
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 600,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome @Boudica1958. Looks like you have been given great advice already. Have a look around the forum. Ask any questions that come into your head. You will not come across a friendlier bunch of people. What they dont know about diabetes isn't worth knowing.

If you get chance watch a video (YouTube). Dr Jason Fung. How to reverse diabetes. Its excellent. If you read this book is brilliant too 'the diabetes code'.
Thank you so much for this info has helped me so very much already, I have been watching the Jason fung vids and I will! Get this under control It has just come as such a shock, so much help from you guys Manythanks
 
Thank you so much for this info has helped me so very much already, I have been watching the Jason fung vids and I will! Get this under control It has just come as such a shock, so much help from you guys Manythanks
I actually class my diagnosis as a blessing in disguise. 18 months on from diagnosis now. Still learning every day. Never felt better. All good stuff going in now. No rubbish. You will get there too.
 
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