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Abbiedogs

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Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
I was diagnosed with type 2 6 weeks ago, totally out of the blue, (I had gone to my GP for a well overdue underactive thyroid test). Since then I have read so much conflicting advice about what you can and can't eat! I was put straight onto Metformin, wasn't given the option of trying diet and exercise first (I was told a figure of 11?). Now I've become terrified of food! The nurse at the clinic said I could eat more or less what I like, but to have the less healthy stuff in moderation, said to cut out fizzy drinks and sugar in drinks - which I don't actually have!! I do need to lose weight, but the thyroid problem along with having the gall bladder out seem to scotch that. I already avoid high fat foods as the lack of a gall bladder makes high fat affect me badly, and having IBS I tend to follow the GL diet. Being me, I went into panic mode and cut out just about everything with a hint of sugar and fat completely, so my diet has been drastically reduced. I feel so depressed now, and can't understand how this has happened. I feel i'm floundering in the dark foodwise, and see all food as poison! Then I come down on myself so hard... I go on holiday in a couple of weeks, and envision myself eating lettuce leaves while my family enjoy themselves eating out! Help!!!!!!!
 
welcome
each person is different with food
i would suggest to test before a meal and 2 hours aftr a meal
 
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I was diagnosed with type 2 6 weeks ago, totally out of the blue, (I had gone to my GP for a well overdue underactive thyroid test). Since then I have read so much conflicting advice about what you can and can't eat! I was put straight onto Metformin, wasn't given the option of trying diet and exercise first (I was told a figure of 11?). Now I've become terrified of food! The nurse at the clinic said I could eat more or less what I like, but to have the less healthy stuff in moderation, said to cut out fizzy drinks and sugar in drinks - which I don't actually have!! I do need to lose weight, but the thyroid problem along with having the gall bladder out seem to scotch that. I already avoid high fat foods as the lack of a gall bladder makes high fat affect me badly, and having IBS I tend to follow the GL diet. Being me, I went into panic mode and cut out just about everything with a hint of sugar and fat completely, so my diet has been drastically reduced. I feel so depressed now, and can't understand how this has happened. I feel i'm floundering in the dark foodwise, and see all food as poison! Then I come down on myself so hard... I go on holiday in a couple of weeks, and envision myself eating lettuce leaves while my family enjoy themselves eating out! Help!!!!!!!

The first thing is 'don't panic' you have found this forum so consider yourself among friends who will help as much as they can, ignore what you have been told, you cannot continue to eat whatever you please...well not if you want to take control. The real baddies are carbohydrates, mainly bread rice pasta and potatoes which are all very high carb, also fruits. You will really need a blood glucose meter to moniter the effects of food on your body, most people here use the Codefree which is available from Home Health you will probably have to self fund the meter and strips but is well worth it. You need to test before you eat then again after 2hours the difference, ideally should be no more than a rise of 2 but under the guideline limit of 8.5 There seems a lot to take in and it's all a little scary but there are people here who have had diabetese for years and who are in control of it. Read all the forums past and present you will find no end of information and others, including @daisy1 will be along soon to offer more help. Ask any questions and somebody amongst the members will be able to answer them, welcome to the forum and be prepared to be surprised with your progress
 
I wasn't told to test, and that will be difficult at work. I was told to base every meal on starchy carbs, yet most people seem to be saying to watch the carbs. I was also told to eat plenty of fruit and veg. Too much conflicting information!
 
Two suggestions, that you read the low carb forum, then read the success stories forum.
The reason, if you are in doubt, for the control of diabetes, is that this forum, recommends reducing your carbs and sugars,! Because it works!
The NHS diet doesn't, that's why the need for this website!

Try it, you've tried the rest now try the best!
 
I was diagnosed in 2014 with hba1c around 64 and weighing 13st3lb I was given the same advice as you and it worried me because I could not see how I would lose weght and get my bloods down to a good level eating the same foods. I found this site and followed a low carb full fat diet, loads of fresh veg full fat milk, real butter, steak, chicken, turkey, hams, salads, 97% meat sausages, pate, berries and cream, I could go on. The only stuff I stopped eating were high carbs, sugary foods, skimmed milk ( which contains sugar) and fruit, in 3 months I lost 2st and my following hba1c was 41 no gimmicks just good wholesome food and it worked. This is now my life diet plus I've been able to go back to eating an apple every day and this week I will try kiwi too. GP's do not encourage testing as it's an expence for the NHS It is also the only way to detect how all foods affect you as all foods affect people differently, we are all different, our bodies are different the only thing we have in common is diabetese
 
I wasn't told to test, and that will be difficult at work. I was told to base every meal on starchy carbs, yet most people seem to be saying to watch the carbs. I was also told to eat plenty of fruit and veg. Too much conflicting information!

I'd be getting a second opinion about diet and simply wait around for others on the forum to chime in with their comments.

NO WAY would I accept that advice. Starchy food and fruit? Speechless. Combine a decent diet with exercise and see the results. Yes, you must test

Mike
 
Hi and welcome to the forum @Abbiedogs .

I will tag @daisy1 to provide you with some basic information.

Take your time to absorb all that people are telling you and then ask any questions that you have.
 
@Abbiedogs

Hello Abbie and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Some members have already given you excellent advice based on their own experiences. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi there Abbie and welcome. You may have to adapt the low carb high fat regime to suit your medical needs but it can be done and I'm sure the members on the site with similar problems will help you. Just take your time and read.
DD
 
Hi and welcome. The advice is conflicting but the members have tried and tested low carb and seen brilliant results. Takes time to break away from what you think is a healthy diet to follow lower carbs and higher fat but your results will show you whether it works. I'm still quite new and trying to reduce my carbs but I've already seen reductions in my readings and lost weight as well. Try and keep in mind this is a long term solution not a sprint so things won't get to where we want overnight.

Hope you have a fab holiday
 
Hi and welcome
Please try to cut down on the carbs and I say cut down not out you will see the results for your self. Smaller portions and more vegetables you will find there are lots of things you can eat and definitely not all salad some yes but not all , if you can have fats bacon and eggs make a great breakfast. Cheese ,olive oil , but I say again cut down on the carbs
Also testing is very quick it takes me about thirty seconds it's as quick as that if your at work nip to the loo it's the only way to tell how you cope with different foods .
Keep asking and we will try to help
Keep well stay safe JJ
 
LCHF does not necessarily mean high fat..
Not all of us diabetics have high fat.. Some just a little extra... Things like avocado, olives, nuts and olive oil.
I base my meals on no bread, pasta or rice because I have slow colonic transit.
However I do eat oily fish twice a week with lots of veg or salads, red meat once a week, white fish other days and eggs other day.. Etc.

I hated fish, avocado, olives for 50 years so this us a huge turn round for me to absolutely live them now!!

Depending how many carbs you eat currently you may wish to just try reducing them a little..

One size does not fit all. Some people are active, working, retired or children etc. So its finding the correct balance for you...
 
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