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chriswalke

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Hi everyone

I am a new member and thought that I would drop a line in the way of introduction. I am a 52 year old that has had diabetes type two for some years now. I take one gliclazide and two metformin daily as well as the usual aspirin, simvastatin, ramipril and amias. I ahve to say that taking the tablets is the least of the problems as I am incessantly tired. lright till lunchtime and then it all kicks in. Up at five in the morning and in bed by ten in the evening!!!
 

Dennis

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Hi Chris and welcome to the forum.

Do you test your blood sugar levels? Tiredness is often symptomatic of high blood sugars, so you need to test, ideally first thing in the morning before breakfast, then again before lunch and before evening meal. This will give you an idea of how your BS levels vary during different parts of the day and how they react to different meals. Then you can take some steps to counter this.

Have a good look round the forum and just ask away if there's anything you want to know.
 

chriswalke

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Hi Dennis

Like you I thought that it could be down to sugars but it doesn't appear to matter whether they are high, low or "normal". I think that it may be due to the combination of all of the drugs as it only started about 6 moths to a year ago. I take my bloods first thing in the morning when they can be anywhere between 6.9 and 8.4 as an average. I am actively discouraged by my GP from taking them at any more regular intervals, although I do not know why, whether down to costs or for a more tentative reason. My last HBA1C came back as low sevens and was acceptable although I did notice a small leap in the results some time ago from 5.9 ish to the current 8 ish in the mornings.
 

Dennis

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Chris,

What cocktail of meds have they put you on?
 

totsy

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also have u had your thyroid checked recently?
welcome btw :D
 

sandymaynard

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Hi
welcome to the forum!
Chris do you eat breakfast? as skipping meal's can cause you to feel sleepy! I am warphin, i notice that certain times of the day i feel more dozzy than other's,
Have you been unwell of late have a cold or flu etc?,
Do you have a supper at night?, sorry to ask so many question's!
Also Chris have you had your thyroid tested?
Do you work in a stressful job?
As stress can put your sugar levels up! Having a bug can cause sugar levels to rise!
 

Alan S

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chriswalke said:
Hi Dennis

Like you I thought that it could be down to sugars but it doesn't appear to matter whether they are high, low or "normal". I think that it may be due to the combination of all of the drugs as it only started about 6 moths to a year ago. I take my bloods first thing in the morning when they can be anywhere between 6.9 and 8.4 as an average. I am actively discouraged by my GP from taking them at any more regular intervals, although I do not know why, whether down to costs or for a more tentative reason. My last HBA1C came back as low sevens and was acceptable although I did notice a small leap in the results some time ago from 5.9 ish to the current 8 ish in the mornings.
G'day Chris.

Your doctor and I (and I'm just a patient) have very different ideas of what may be high, low or "normal".

For example, I consider an occasional fasting of 8ish and an A1c over 6.5% to be excessively high for a person who has had this for over two years. And moving from 5.9 fasting BG to 8 is not a small leap - it is major. Whether or not those contribute to your energy probems is a separate issue, but they certainly aren't good numbers for your long-term health prospects. That meds cocktail probably isn't a lot of help either. It may be time to ask the doc to review the need for each of those and to check interactivity side effects possibilities.

You didn't mention your menu; the single most important thing that we can control at home for our type 2 management. What do you eat over your day?

Please ignore the discouragement on testing and just do it. Start here: (click on it): [): Getting Started
 

chriswalke

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Hey

Thanks for all of the replies. It is comforting to know that you all have offered something that my own GP seems unable to offer and that is, advice. I believe that I have lost count of the number of times that I have voiced concerns over my bloods. I take 1 x gliclazide (30mg), 1 x Aspiring (75mg), 1 x Metformin (500mg), 1 x Ramipril (5mg) and 1 x Candesartan (4mg) first thing in the morning. At anbout 5pm I then take another metformin (500mg) and just before bed take a simvastatin (40mg). This has been my daily routine for the last six months. I do eat breakfast however I have also been known to miss this due to other committments. I have what I consider to be a fairly balanced diet but should always eat more vegetables. I eat fruit as often as I can. I do have a stessful job as I run my own company with my wife from home and to add to that we have six children to tend for although two have grown an one has now moved out and the other is off to uni very shortly. I didn't know about the thyroid roblems and am unaware whether, if at all, this has ever been checked but will certainly raise it with the GP next time round. I get up at 05.00 - 05.30 every morning and have a nap generally in the evenings and so it appears my body clock may have adjusted to the what happens in a day.

Thanks all.
 

Dennis

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Hi Chris,

Of all the meals you could miss, breakfast is the worst one for a diabetic. The reason is that during the night your liver starts generating glucose because you haven't eaten for a while. That glucose goes straight into your blood and will raise your blood sugar. This is why, if you were to test your BS just before bed, then again on waking up, you will often find it is higher in the morning even though you may have eaten nothing for 10 or 12 hours.

The only way to shut down this glucose production is by eating something. So if your first meal is lunch then your liver will have been generating glocose for 8 hours or more and your blood sugar will be sky high.