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Jason 72

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Hi everyone,
I have been diagnosed with T2 for more than 13 years. I been struggling to kept my BG under control for these few years until when to see new GP. Put me on Diamircon Mr 30mg on top of my metformin 500mg x 4. So daily need to take 5 pills for diabetes alone..Total need to take 12 pills daily :bored:until last week when I think need to cut. So stop taking diabetes drugs for 1 week already n feeling Great :)
 
Hi everyone,
I have been diagnosed with T2 for more than 13 years. I been struggling to kept my BG under control for these few years until when to see new GP. Put me on Diamircon Mr 30mg on top of my metformin 500mg x 4. So daily need to take 5 pills for diabetes alone..Total need to take 12 pills daily :bored:until last week when I think need to cut. So stop taking diabetes drugs for 1 week already n feeling Great :)

Hi Jason, I don't think any of us would advocate simply stopping all medication without a Drs advice but what have your glucose readings been like and what sort of food do you eat?
 
Hi everyone,
I have been diagnosed with T2 for more than 13 years. I been struggling to kept my BG under control for these few years until when to see new GP. Put me on Diamircon Mr 30mg on top of my metformin 500mg x 4. So daily need to take 5 pills for diabetes alone..Total need to take 12 pills daily :bored:until last week when I think need to cut. So stop taking diabetes drugs for 1 week already n feeling Great :)

Hey Jason, and welcome,

Though I personally hate meds, quite thoroughly (as the feeling seems mutual), I wouldn't just quit 'em... Not without taking other action AND discussing it with my GP or specialist. Really, this could be dangerous. You're not on them for the heck of it, you need to keep your bloodsugars under control. You don't want to lose toes, kidneyfunction, eyesight, that sort of thing. At least, I assume you wouldn't. Diabetic neuropathy isn't fun either. And keeping control without as many medication as you're on now can probably be done, actually... Do yourself a favour, if you haven't already got one: Shop for a meter (most T2's on here self-fund). Then have a good read over at www.dietdoctor.com. Basically, as T2's, we can't process glucose out of our system. And practically all carbs turn to glucose once ingested, so lowering the intake of carbs would lower bloodsugars as well. That would mean no spuds, bread, porridge/cereal, corn, pasta, rice, most fruit (save for berries, avocado and tomato)... And just going to town on meat, fish, above-ground veggies/leafy greens, cheese, olives, eggs, full-fat greek yoghurt, double cream, extra dark chocolate and what have you. (BACON!!!!!1!!!!1111!!!! :) ) If you have a meter and you check before a meal, and 2 hours after first bite, and you don't go up more than 2.0 mmol/l, then that meal was absolutely fab and can be safely repeated. Otherwise, it really needs adjusting or scratching completely. That's the really, really short version. And as with drastic changes in meds, diet should be discussed too with the doc, because some meds can cause hypo's when combined with a low carb lifestyle.

Medication usually wreaks havoc on me, Metformin was a nightmare, Gliclazide (Diamicron) didn't do much of anything because the dosage was low. But I got into the non-diabetic range just on diet, and could stop the meds (even the statins), pretty soon after starting Low Carb/High Fat. But I did it with the knowledge of my medical team. (They were sceptical, but my test results spoke for themselves.).

Please do take care of yourself. I'm glad you're feeling better than you were, but you really do need to keep your bloodsugars in check somehow.
Good luck!
Jo
 
Do you test using a home glucose monitor, if so, how are your blood glucose levels looking? Have you changed your diet to compensate for the change you've made to taking your meds?
 
Hi everyone,
I have been diagnosed with T2 for more than 13 years. I been struggling to kept my BG under control for these few years until when to see new GP. Put me on Diamircon Mr 30mg on top of my metformin 500mg x 4. So daily need to take 5 pills for diabetes alone..Total need to take 12 pills daily :bored:until last week when I think need to cut. So stop taking diabetes drugs for 1 week already n feeling Great :)
(I love your avatar by the way. Though I do worry. ;) )
 
Hi!

As you are new on this forum, though not new to T2, I'm tagging @daisy1 for her very helpful welcome info, which is always a useful refresher for the basics about diabetes.

I am T2, not on meds, but diet controlled. I have managed to keep my blood glucose levels "just" in prediabetes levels by diet alone, by eating extremely low carb, as explained very nicely by Jo above. But it has been a very difficult road to do that, and it's definitely more difficult in December being surrounded by all the holiday treats that are off limits. I would imagine that the upcoming month would be very challenging to undergo a change in what you eat (especially for me as it's my birthday month!).

It is absolutely worth it to keep blood glucose levels under control - by whatever method is sustainable and preferable for you - and there are a lot of wise people with accumulated experience on this forum who can help, so welcome!
 
Not to worry.. My FBG is below 5.5 for the whole week. Tomorrow will have my OGTT and hopefully below 8. Before that it was 18. Then I will say goodbye to T2 after 13 years of wondering this can't eat, that also can not..
 
Hi. Unless there is a good reason for your previous high BS (such as taking steroids) your diabetes may not be 'gone' so keep testing every so often. Keep going with the low-carb diet.
 
@Jason 72
Hello Jason and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will try to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Not to worry.. My FBG is below 5.5 for the whole week. Tomorrow will have my OGTT and hopefully below 8. Before that it was 18. Then I will say goodbye to T2 after 13 years of wondering this can't eat, that also can not..

Hi Jason, are you ON a low carb diet?, some more info would be good.
 
In Asian, usually we love our carb (rice, noodles, vermicelli etc). Ya, I do cut a bit of my carb intake but I still do like my happy hour time. At first, I thought alcohol is the main cause (usually 3-4 day/week) but I realized it not the main cause. Maybe all we need to exercise a bit. Bet u see result
 
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