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krishsingh

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Hi guys, my name is krish and I'm new to the diabetes scene. I've got a few friends and family members who have diabetes. Can anyone point me in the direction to alternative therapies for diabetes (both type 1 & 2) and recommend any particular alternatives if they have worked for you or anyone you know/read about?

Krish
 
Hi , we're new to diabetes my 12 year old daughter was diagnosed in may 2012 . With our limited knowledge we know at present there is no substitute for insulin. The only way plants as you put it or foods are going to help you is by eating a good diet :-)
 
Hi Krish

I'm new to the forum too. Have a few close relatives with diabetes so thought I'd log on to learn more about the condition.

I'm also interested in your post too - hear a lot about vitamins etc and how they can help control diabetes. My girlfriend did her whole dissertation on the subject.

Hope to see you around anyway

Chris
 
Hi Krish and Chris and welcome to the forum :)

Here is some information which you will all find useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Several herbal supplements are said to be of benefit in diabetes - cinnamon, bitter melon and gymnema are the ones I've heard of mostly on the forum.

I take bitter melon and cinammon ... and I'm also on LCHF eating regime. :D
 
The biggest effect on diabetes is carbohydrate - & avoiding or drastically reducing rice, chapattis, potatoes, bread, pasta, puddings, cereals, will have a very significant effect. That is the BIG alternative to the NHS/DUK high carb diet you will be told about.

Herbs may have an effect, but are likely to be secondary to carb reduction.
 
IanD said:
The biggest effect on diabetes is carbohydrate - & avoiding or drastically reducing rice, chapattis, potatoes, bread, pasta, puddings, cereals, will have a very significant effect. That is the BIG alternative to the NHS/DUK high carb diet you will be told about.

Herbs may have an effect, but are likely to be secondary to carb reduction.

I agree ... definitely carb reduction has lowered by BS, whether the herbs help or not, I don't know because I'm just trying them out.
 
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