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Hi, glad to find a forum where you can receive information and encouragement! I’m 70 and have just been told that I’m pre-diabetic. My score was 41 so rather a shot across the bows to hopefully jolt me into the right actions to remedy the situation. I was slightly surprised but due to a hip replacement and then an Ablation procedure I’ve been quite inactive and I think it’s probably the lack of exercise that has contributed to it. BUT... struggling to find alternatives to bread at breakfast! The rest of the day I seem to cope with, but no toast in the morning? G.
 
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Hello and welcome @Goldenoldy :)

Tagging @daisy1 for a useful info pack to help you. Lots of support here so you're in the right place.
 

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Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 600,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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You could buy bread with a lower carb count. Burgen bread is popular and tasty. Makes great toast. I now look at sliced white loaves and wonder why I ever ate them.
 
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Goldenoldy

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You could buy bread with a lower carb count. Burgen bread is popular and tasty. Makes great toast. I now look at sliced white loaves and wonder why I ever ate them.

Thanks. Yes, I spent a half hour going through the loaves at a supermarket yesterday. Most were between 16-24 gms carb per slice. I was unable to find a low carb option, but have read here today that Asda do one. I’ll try again tomorrow!
 
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Breakfast food doesn’t have to be traditional breakfast food. Any low carb food can be eaten at any meal. It’s only tradition that says particular foods are for set times of the day. Many cultures don’t have that separation of food types.

As well as eggs in numerous ways, bacon, high meat sausages (watch for carbs fillers) leftovers from last nights dinner feature heavily for me. Quick and easy and usually just as tasty or possibly more if flavours have developed.
 

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Hi, so today I found the low carb loaf at Asda. £1.20. Out of interest checked the carbs per slice 9.9. Then a quick look at the small Warburtons wholemeal. Carbs 9.0. ?? And, only 70p. Got the feeling shopping is going to take a lot longer!
 

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Hi, so today I found the low carb loaf at Asda. £1.20. Out of interest checked the carbs per slice 9.9. Then a quick look at the small Warburtons wholemeal. Carbs 9.0. ?? And, only 70p. Got the feeling shopping is going to take a lot longer!
If you are near Saisburys they donan excellent seeded loaf called HiLo at 5g carbs per slice. It does cost £1.75 but I have found it to make the most satisfying toast.Waitrose do a similar loaf at 3.75g per slice (cant remember what its called) the slices are thinner
 
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If you are near Saisburys they donan excellent seeded loaf called HiLo at 5g carbs per slice. It does cost £1.75 but I have found it to make the most satisfying toast.Waitrose do a similar loaf at 3.75g per slice (cant remember what its called) the slices are thinner
Not all do. I have a huge sainsbury near me and they replace the Hilo with the Hovis low carb.
 

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Got the feeling shopping is going to take a lot longer!
Welcome to the forum @Goldenoldy. Shopping will take longer at first, checking the nutrition information. But you will soon get to know the lower carb options.
I don't usually eat breakfast, but first eat around midday. Then I often have a couple of poached eggs, or a fried egg and a couple of rashers of bacon. I do like some toast with it but now have just one slice of wholemeal toast where before I would have had two slices of toasted white bread.

Edit: Also I freeze bread and toast from frozen which increases it's starch resistance, so less carbs.
 
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If you can manage to make this yourself, it's easy, I totally recommend it tastewise as a bread substitute. Just don't eat any more than one or two at a time. I had 4 the first time I made them and I was also pregnant and I was very bloated afterwards, probably from the psyllium husks. But they are also more filling than bread being made from almond meal rather than flour. A total treat though if you want to skip actual bread. https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/the-keto-bread
 
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If you can manage to make this yourself, it's easy, I totally recommend it tastewise as a bread substitute. Just don't eat any more than one or two at a time. I had 4 the first time I made them and I was also pregnant and I was very bloated afterwards, probably from the psyllium husks. But they are also more filling than bread being made from almond meal rather than flour. A total treat though if you want to skip actual bread. https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/the-keto-bread
And they can be toasted as well!
 
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Hi and welcome @Goldenoldy

The forum is a great place to draw on the experience of many!

Burger and HiLo are two lower carb brands.
Then there are many recipes. Some of the best can be found at www.dietdoctor.com

This is a microwave one I have used sometimes. Ignore the weird American idea that this should be called ‘an English muffin’. It is nothing like a muffin! But it IS delicious. And only takes 2 mins to make in a microwave.
https://www.ditchthecarbs.com/1-minute-keto-muffins/
 
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Hi, so today I found the low carb loaf at Asda. £1.20. Out of interest checked the carbs per slice 9.9. Then a quick look at the small Warburtons wholemeal. Carbs 9.0. ?? And, only 70p. Got the feeling shopping is going to take a lot longer!
Asda protein bread is 4 gm of carb per slice in the shop I go to. I think there is a rye bread which is similar.