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philly1991
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I'm going to sit and research some low carb options tonight and try and get myself shopping tomorrow. My fridge and cupboards are very bare at the minute because shopping causes a lot of anxiety but I know I need to brave it.
Cheese (cheese crisps!), salami, greek yoghurt, olives, cold meats, eggs (and bacon, or egg mayo), avocado, pork scratchings are all low carb enough that you can likely eat them for an evening snack when you're hungry without needing to take insulin before bed.
You'll likely won't like everything in my list, but perhaps there's something there you do like and can buy tomorrow for future hungry moments.
I'm sorry you are struggling now with what you have in the house and being hungry, but I'm very impressed by you recognising the progress you've already made since starting this thread and not wanting to lose that flow!
philly1991
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Thankyou so much. I know if I let it slip 'just this once' it'll throw me off completely. I have breakfast planned for tomorrow when I can have some carbs but I'm trying to avoid them tonight because I want to go to bed in range so I don't wake high in the morning. If that happened I think it would set me up for a bad day tomorrow.Cheese (cheese crisps!), salami, greek yoghurt, olives, cold meats, eggs (and bacon, or egg mayo), avocado, pork scratchings are all low carb enough that you can likely eat them for an evening snack when you're hungry without needing to take insulin before bed.
You'll likely won't like everything in my list, but perhaps there's something there you do like and can buy tomorrow for future hungry moments.
I'm sorry you are struggling now with what you have in the house and being hungry, but I'm very impressed by you recognising the progress you've already made since starting this thread and not wanting to lose that flow!
I found a sugar free jelly in my fridge, I know it won't fill me but it should take the edge off.
I'm still sorry you don't have anything to fill you up right now (carbs are fine if you can dose for them but I completely agree that carbs and dosing before bed usually doesn't end well), but maybe this will give you just the push you need to do the dreadful shopping tomorrow.
See you tomorrow with a friendly reminder on tasks you do not want to do.
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boiled eggs are pretty filling can keep for several days in the fridge
just ensure to put them in ice cold water after boil if colour change bothers u that helps to prevent it. spoonful of mayo wee pinch of pepper & chilli/paprika with some black pepper yum i'd add some nuts to your shopping list : not cashew. morrisons have a deal with the larger packs. 30g portion 2.3g carbs some use 3-4 almonds if they get dawn phenom.. to make the liver think they've eaten something so stops releasing glucose. not as low carb as other options but sitll worth a go
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Lots of good ideas for low carb snacks, I'll suggest a couple more in case you like the idea of either of them.
Tinned fish, eg mackerel. Satisfying and good for the brain too.
Corned beef. Like fish, a tin keeps for ages.
Good luck for tomorrow!
Tinned fish, eg mackerel. Satisfying and good for the brain too.
Corned beef. Like fish, a tin keeps for ages.
Good luck for tomorrow!
Good morning @philly1991 .
I hope you slept well and the sf jelly did the trick last night!
How do you feel about making a phonecall to see if you can get some mental health support, are you up to it? I'm thinking of you, I know all too well what ugly tricks anxiety can play from experience.
The sooner you call, the quicker you'll have it over with.
And a friendly push for getting the groceries done too. You really need to with the empty fridge, but two hard tasks in a day is a bit much.
Good luck!
Lakeslover
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You may already do this but make a meal plan for the week and write a shopping list. That way hopefully you won’t panic and grab the nearest stuff, and you will get the things you need like the low carb snacks. Then when you are in the shop just focus on your list and try and block everything else out. Would that help?
An alternative for the future could be on online shop?
How was breakfast this morning?
An alternative for the future could be on online shop?
How was breakfast this morning?
Marikev
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Hei @philly1991 , came in here to offer a version of what Lakeslover has suggested. To have the same or very similar meals each day, so you don’t have to think about the choice element of the food? Maybe just for a couple of weeks, to get yourself into a new routine?
I was only diagnosed 3 years ago, after a whole lifetime of being able to eat as much of whatever I fancied. I had a routine of eating breakfast, lunch and dinner in the evening, and maybe snacking in front of the TV. Before the T1D diagnosis I was misdiagnosed with IBS, offered and refused medication, the side effects could have been much the same as the symptoms I was trying to avoid! Instead put myself on an ever limited array of foods, no coarse bread, nothing cabbage related, no citrus, no tomatoes…
By the time diagnosis arrived I had no idea what I liked to eat … spent 5 days in hospital where the fare was 4 meals a day, 3 of which were 2 slices of brown bread with protein, slices of ham/cheese, few slivers of ‘salad’ cucumber, peppers, tomatoes, maybe some tiny pieces of fruit. Then a dinner of meat or fish, carbs of potatoes or rice or pasta , some lightly cooked veg and a diabetic pudding
So when I came home that is what I ate for a few months, until I realised I didn’t need that much food! Or that many carbs!
But having the framework of a regular diet helped me cope with the insulin regime. So I was actually eating to the insulin dose. I
I keep my quick acting insulin on the table where we usually eat. appreciate if there are other people in the house this may not be possible…If we go out or I am travelling I take the pen of quick acting in my small handbag, and regularly replenish the needles in the side pocket of the bag. The long acting sits by my bed and I take it first thing in the morning.
Wishing you well, hope you have a good week.
Want to proffer praise for your doing dinner night before last and breakfast yesterday, but think it might come over as patronising
I was only diagnosed 3 years ago, after a whole lifetime of being able to eat as much of whatever I fancied. I had a routine of eating breakfast, lunch and dinner in the evening, and maybe snacking in front of the TV. Before the T1D diagnosis I was misdiagnosed with IBS, offered and refused medication, the side effects could have been much the same as the symptoms I was trying to avoid! Instead put myself on an ever limited array of foods, no coarse bread, nothing cabbage related, no citrus, no tomatoes…
By the time diagnosis arrived I had no idea what I liked to eat … spent 5 days in hospital where the fare was 4 meals a day, 3 of which were 2 slices of brown bread with protein, slices of ham/cheese, few slivers of ‘salad’ cucumber, peppers, tomatoes, maybe some tiny pieces of fruit. Then a dinner of meat or fish, carbs of potatoes or rice or pasta , some lightly cooked veg and a diabetic pudding
So when I came home that is what I ate for a few months, until I realised I didn’t need that much food! Or that many carbs!
But having the framework of a regular diet helped me cope with the insulin regime. So I was actually eating to the insulin dose. I
I keep my quick acting insulin on the table where we usually eat. appreciate if there are other people in the house this may not be possible…If we go out or I am travelling I take the pen of quick acting in my small handbag, and regularly replenish the needles in the side pocket of the bag. The long acting sits by my bed and I take it first thing in the morning.
Wishing you well, hope you have a good week.
Want to proffer praise for your doing dinner night before last and breakfast yesterday, but think it might come over as patronising
philly1991
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I didn't sleep great, I was worrying about the day ahead. But shopping is done and I did call the number I got through my DSN but they are closed today hopefully I can brave it again tomorrow. Thankyou for the reminder and your thoughts.Good morning @philly1991 .
I hope you slept well and the sf jelly did the trick last night!
How do you feel about making a phonecall to see if you can get some mental health support, are you up to it? I'm thinking of you, I know all too well what ugly tricks anxiety can play from experience.
The sooner you call, the quicker you'll have it over with.
And a friendly push for getting the groceries done too. You really need to with the empty fridge, but two hard tasks in a day is a bit much.
Good luck!
My BG was 6.4 when I went to bed and 7.7 when I woke this morning so I was very happy with that. It has risen after shopping though!
philly1991
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I probably should have made a meal plan, I did make a shopping list with some meals in mind and I did well sticking to it. Online shopping has been okay for me before but there have been times they've not had the items I've needed so I've still had to brave a shop. But at least then I'm only having to go in for a few items.
BG 7.7 when I woke, 7.2 before breakfast. I had some weetabix and blueberries. My BG is a little high now, maybe too many carbs? Or the stress of shopping perhaps.
philly1991
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I hadn't thought of that but I like the idea. I remember it being similar when I was diagnosed and spent time in hospital but they didn't teach me carb counting initially. I was prescribed NovoMix and took a morning and evening dose and that was that.
I think the predictability would help, I could write a menu and calculate the carb values for each meal so the information would be readily available and possibly take away some of the stressors. Thankyou for the suggestion.
Not patronising at all. I really do appreciate everybody's advice and support.
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could be a mix of both stress does effect levels most people tend to find that stress raises it.. however a lot rarer can lower weird eh
I've posted the following to the fasting chat you posted to this morning copied it here too incase a mod removes as wasnt really on topic.
"this url maybe useful for you there is a lot better tables out there but that should give you a start for some ideas https://www.wchc.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Carbohydrate-reference-tables.pdf
you can snack on whatever agree's with your body. as your using a cgm you have a nice advantage that you can experiment a little and see in 'realtime' (lagging behind but hey ho) the effects of various foods have on your levels. something with lots of fibre&protein are usually good shouts like various types of forms of nuts. Tolerate some fruits better than others usually those with lower GI (eg watermelon). Various dips eg mayo, add some of your own favourite herbs/spices make some batons from various fruits/veg for dipping heres a few suggestions on that side.
~3g carbs per 100grams celerly, cucumber batons
~5g carbs per 100g peppers/some tomatos, courgette batons
~10g carbs per 100g which you can also use with a dip carrots/beetroot/onions just smaller amounts.
rule of thumb avoid higher starch veg's for snacks. and avoid dried fruits to some degree (check gi index/load tables)
cold meats are usually great your choice of chorizo is perfect
love cheese you can buy crisps made entirely out cheese pretty much dehydrated or baked/grilled crispy in wafer thin slices can make your own in the oven low heat which would be cheaper.Eggs are pretty filling. egg in a cup with a little butter salt and pepper. or just plain boiled egg usually will makes me feel fairly full.
something to bear in mind: if your body doesnt have enough carbs it can use proteins and fats converting them to glucose.
cauliflower rice is ok too little bit bland... so need to add something to it for taste
can also swap out things like rice for couscous(23g)/cauliflowerrice(1.5to2g) (2-6g if prepackaged)a single cadbury's dark chocolate finger is 3g.
can try a small piece of dark chocolate if miss it (higher coco % usually the better 80%+).
really depends on what you want to snack on and take past experience of what works well for you. keeping a note of what worked well will help make it easier for the future. gl
(edit: corrected a typo above and added below as missed answering local services)
in different health board the service was good, they'd passed onto local service now which i'm still waiting on an appt 7 months on... the original hospistal team had a dedicated diabetic physcologist who has sent me some info and touched base a couple of times to see if i've had an appt yet and are trying to chase up, alongside given me some stuff research). needlephobic sort of here, its more things going in and out veins which makes blood sampling ... hard and hard for treatment. CBT will likely help somewhat with exposing self to the issues in which i fear."
aweome job on shopping
and very well done for trying to contact your dsn. you can do a self referal for mental health without having to go through your dsn only if your upto it or may find that easier? heres a link for linconshire : https://www.lpft.nhs.uk/talking-therapies/self-referral they offer to do some stuff in various formats online/in person and a mix and match of both.
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Rise could be due to either. I know my BG goes up when I go shopping .
Those were good readings overnight. Did you manage to take your insulin with breakfast this morning.
Well done for trying the call.
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Wheatabix always results in steep spikes for me came down fairly slowly after upto 12.6 currently at 5.2 
you could try instead of milk have it with some plain/greek yoghurt and throw in a little chopped nuts or a couple of berries strawberries/raspberries or blackberries have fairly low carbs they're around 5to6g carbs per 100g with decent fibre content as long as in moderation. In general more sugars in milk than cream
you could try instead of milk have it with some plain/greek yoghurt and throw in a little chopped nuts or a couple of berries strawberries/raspberries or blackberries have fairly low carbs they're around 5to6g carbs per 100g with decent fibre content as long as in moderation. In general more sugars in milk than creamAttachments
philly1991
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Yes had insulin about 30 minutes before breakfast. Probably didn't make the best choice but I needed some carbs. Took myself for a short walk after shopping and still at 10.1 now but that's still so much better than usual.
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what your plans for the rest of your day off? think you had mentioned was nice and sunny this morning, maybe an afternoon stroll around park/forest or up the hills or something? <3 up the hills infact anywhere is a good change of scenery and can help to feel revitalised
think you had mentioned was nice and sunny this morning, maybe an afternoon stroll around park/forest or up the hills or something? <3 up the hills infact anywhere is a good change of scenery and can help to feel revitalised philly1991
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I have a few jobs in the house to tackle, had a short walk this morning so don't think I will go out this afternoon. I may need a nap to see me through but hopefully not.what your plans for the rest of your day off?
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I am type 2 and was doing just fine until I decided to do the shakes and low calorie thing last year. I did it for two months then found it was not working for me.
I decided to go back to the way I ate before - and found it really difficult to sort out my meals.
Being an old hippy I fell back on meditation. When I was supposed to eat and was faffing about making poor choices I made myself stop and consider - life, the universe and everything.
After the fourth attempt I just got up and made myself an appropriate meal. Next morning I took my thyroid medication and cooked an appropriate meal.
Sometimes just stopping and focusing the mind restores clarity of thought and allows correct action to prevail.
