Here's a useful review of the research.No law restricting diabetic chocolate at the moment. Boots did withdraw their range but it is back and re-formulated. There is an article on this site's (DCUK) home page about chocolate in general. Also on DUK site. A long time ago some sweetners got banned, but now only one (cyclamates) remains banned, and that is only by the FDA, so not in UK.
I'm new to diabetes, two months Type 1. Reading this forum I was interested to find out what Chromium does and if it is safe, interestingly I found a statement on Phentermine.com stating, 'If you are diabetic, do not supplement with chromium....'. As I said, I'm new and need to do more reading, the jist I get is people are using it to curb craving and stop BG spikes. Would be interested in users opinion.
I'm new to diabetes, two months Type 1. Reading this forum I was interested to find out what Chromium does and if it is safe, interestingly I found a statement on Phentermine.com stating, 'If you are diabetic, do not supplement with chromium....'. As I said, I'm new and need to do more reading, the jist I get is people are using it to curb craving and stop BG spikes. Would be interested in users opinion.
would you trust your health care professional?
I have a trait of asking seemingly innocuous questions whilst knowing a great deal about the subject so when a HCP describes metformin as working the same as a sulphonylurea
or when they dismiss supplements for joint pain stating its just age whilst forgetting to mention it could be down to statin use
If you are diabetic, then anything that can lower bgl needs to be treated with caution, especially if on certain medications. Anyone on insulin therapy need to be especially aware of the dangers of hypoglycemia, and so an untrained salespersons will say don't take it. However, many here on this forum are well informed, and able to make up their own minds, so in the case of Chromium it is not a major issue since the bgl lowering effects are small anyway, It is more of an issue with things like Bitter Melon or Gymnema Sylvestre which are used for primary control of Diabetes in some Indian medicine practices. I personally found that a Cr suplement did drop my fasting bgl by around 1 mmol/l. but that over time this effect became less. I got better bgl lowering from nightly alcohol.
I agree with you if you are on diet only.
But if you are taking medications, then these quite often interfere with the way our bodies work so we either end up blocking absorption, or excreting the very minerals and vitamins we require. I am thinking Metformin, SGLT-2 inhibitors, most BP meds, diuretics, and lansaprazole. omeprazole protectors. Clopidogrel and aspirin / warfarin also affects us. There are probably others that some here may be on (eg statins?), but these meds are ones I am taking, and every one adversly affects my metabolism.
When taking multiple medications I would worry a bit as to how some supplements would interact with all of themI agree with you if you are on diet only.
But if you are taking medications, then these quite often interfere with the way our bodies work so we either end up blocking absorption, or excreting the very minerals and vitamins we require. I am thinking Metformin, SGLT-2 inhibitors, most BP meds, diuretics, and lansaprazole. omeprazole protectors. Clopidogrel and aspirin / warfarin also affects us. There are probably others that some here may be on (eg statins?), but these meds are ones I am taking, and every one adversly affects my metabolism.
Omeprazole is now contraindicated for use with Clopidogrel, and there is now an FDA warning out on it. My iron supplement specifically says I should avoid taking the supplemnt along with meds that lower stomach acid ( i,e, the prazoles), and I found that my lansoprazole was also interfering with my gliclazide meds preventing them working. I shifted the timing of my lansoprazole, and my glic worked so well I was getting hypo's, and so I have now dropped a Glic tab entirely. These meds also interfere with absorbtion of the fat based Vitamins (mainly B6 and B12 I believe) and calcium since these also need a high acid environment. I mentioned aspirin only because some GPs prescribe a prazole to protect the tummy for long term users.Oldvart - you are a wealth of knowledge. How does omeprazole protectors, and aspirin affect your metabolism?
We metabolise alcohol differently from other carbs, and it goes straight to the liver rather than the pancreas. It does lower bgl rather than spike us, which is surprising, but worth taking note if using bgl reducing meds. Nightime hypos can follow a night out on the town, so be careful.Hello Oldvart - nearly everything you say surprises me (even though you may be right). Now you say that nightly alcohol lowers you bgl? I thought alcohol would RAISE your bgl.
We metabolise alcohol differently from other carbs, and it goes straight to the liver rather than the pancreas. It does lower bgl rather than spike us, which is surprising, but worth taking note if using bgl reducing meds. Nightime hypos can follow a night out on the town, so be careful.
EDIT: Alcohol is not a diabetes control measure I recommend, but I did use it to lower bgl the day of a GP or DSN visit where they use a bgl meter. It will not have much effect on a HbA1c result unless you are a chronic alkie.
The problem with that is a GP's surgery can withdraw all support for a diabetic if they refuse the medication I have had one hell of a job turning down the flu jab 4 times I was asked in the end I said I once had a bad reaction to it@Kyambala Perhaps you may rethink taking the statins from the chemist and . not using them ? They do have to be paid for by the NHS
CAROL
OMG - and watch your BS levels skyrocket!I have just been reading the UK “Asda Guide for People with Diabetes”. It says:
1. Avoid being overweight
2. Starchy foods should make up the largest part of your diet.
3. Eat less fat, especially saturated fat.
4. Added sugar (sucrose) is acceptable.
On page 4 it says: “base your meals around rice, potato, bread, pasta or cereal”.
On page 5 it says: “All rice, pasta, bread, chapattis, cereals and potatoes .... are great foods”.
Page 6 says: “BREAKFAST: Fruit juice, chopped fruit on cereal, tomatoes on toast, fresh fruit e.g grapefruit, bananas”.
Page 7 recommends: “Semi Skinned & Skimmed Milk & Light Yogurts”.
Page 8 recommends: “Peas, beans, oats, pasta and rice dishes, curries and mince dishes”.
Page 9 suggests: “Diet Coke, Jams, Biscuits, Malted Milk, Scones and plain cakes. Pizzas & Pies”.
Page 10 suggests: “Banana & Date Loaf”.
Page 11 suggests: “ Apple & Pear Crumble. Marmalade Carrot Loaf”
This is the advice from “Commerce”. Now, what are the comments and advice from Diabetics “who have been there = experts”?
Just because you get the paper prescription doesn't mean that you have to get it filled. And I don't think the docs have any way of checking whether you do get it filled (or maybe someone else knows if this is true or not?)@Kyambala Perhaps you may rethink taking the statins from the chemist and . not using them ? They do have to be paid for by the NHS
CAROL
trouble is its all about to go paperless now if you dont pick it up from chemist maybe they would call the surgeryJust because you get the paper prescription doesn't mean that you have to get it filled. And I don't think the docs have any way of checking whether you do get it filled (or maybe someone else knows if this is true or not?)
Yep - I know what you mean.trouble is its all about to go paperless now if you dont pick it up from chemist maybe they would call the surgery
Wow never had this, that's tough to deal with- I don't get my jab at the GP I go to boots and they have never commented on this - also whenever I have expressed a desire to turn down a medication they have said that they recommend I reconsider but ultimately it's my body and my decision to take meds or not but they have always supported my decisions . If they ever came down heavy handed with me I think I would look for another practiceThe problem with that is a GP's surgery can withdraw all support for a diabetic if they refuse the medication I have had one hell of a job turning down the flu jab 4 times I was asked in the end I said I once had a bad reaction to it
@Kyambala Perhaps you may rethink taking the statins from the chemist and . not using them ? They do have to be paid for by the NHS
CAROL
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