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Honey yes or no

First.Officer said:
It’s actually very easy to work out whether or not you can consume various food and drink with Type 2 Diabetes....if it looks tasty and enjoyable, then you can’t eat it in the main. :banghead:
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I’d say the opposite. What’s not tasty or enjoyable about a nice juicy steak, crispy bacon, fresh fish, cheese, extra thick cream. The list goes on.
 
First.Officer said:
It’s actually very easy to work out whether or not you can consume various food and drink with Type 2 Diabetes....if it looks tasty and enjoyable, then you can’t eat it in the main. :banghead:
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Erm, speak for yourself.
I think various french cheeses, a steak with mushrooms and onions, bacon, homemade meatballs or a casserole with vegetables and cream look very tasty and enjoyable.
I'm sorry you don't like veggies with cheese or bacon cubes, and I'm sorry you don't enjoy olives, avocado, devilled eggs and nuts, but don't tell us we can't eat those things because we think it looks tasty and enjoyable!

If it was meant as a funny remark, I don't think it is.

There are definitely foods I miss (bread!) but why would you tell people who are struggling with their diabetes and food choices that almost anything they like is a no? Most people like a lot of foods we can eat without a single thought about blood sugar!
 
Honey, corn syrup and maple syrup are all lumped in the same "Do Not Eat" bin along with the other sugars, but I'll trade them all for a nice steak or even a hamburger on lettuce...
 
Antje77 said:
Depends. If I have a meal of meat and caramelized chicory, using only a teaspoon of honey for the caramelising I still have a very low carb meal (zero for the meat, up to 3 or 4 grams for the chicory, not sure how much a big potion of chicory weighs, as good as zero for the butter to fry, honey 4 to 5 grams), less than 10 grams of carbs a meal.
The same goes for a teaspoon of honey (4 to 5 grams) in your bowl of Greek yoghurt (200 grams of yoghurt is around 6 grams of carbs), which makes for a breakfast of around 10 grams of carbs.
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I agree with this. I use honey in my home baking as a sweetener over other sweeteners like Erythritol which would not spike BS. This is simply because I am more comfortable with the idea of using raw honey which has (solely in my own opinion) more nutritional diversity. A teaspoon amount say 10g over a bake of 10 zucchini lemon coconut muffins is really 0.8 in carbs per muffin from honey and when you have reduced sugar in your life you are sensitive to its taste. Honey is pretty sweet :). I split the muffin with my partner so that is 0.45( we share the ‘Sin’) In the end it’s the overall picture you have of your own diet as well as your own private goals and what helps you cope that will help you maintain it long term.
 
The only time I use honey is as an endearing term to thy wife, just before I tell her I broke something of hers or ate her lunch.
 
First.Officer said:
It’s actually very easy to work out whether or not you can consume various food and drink with Type 2 Diabetes....if it looks tasty and enjoyable, then you can’t eat it in the main. :banghead:
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I find the opposite. Everything I’d previously been conditioned to think would kill me, I now eat as much of as I like. The real tasty stuff :hungry:
 
First.Officer said:
It’s actually very easy to work out whether or not you can consume various food and drink with Type 2 Diabetes....if it looks tasty and enjoyable, then you can’t eat it in the main. :banghead:
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That's funny, and I know you mean well, but I'm going to have to butt in here with a disagreement:
Steak is fine for T2,
pork chops are fine,
chicken is fine,
eggs are fine,
fish is fine,
cheese is fine,
good red wine is fine,
dry white wine is fine,
Spirits are fine,
green leafy veg is fine,
The list just goes on and on.

I miss potatoes, pasta and rice, but apart from that, you can eat like a KING on a low carb T2 diet.
 
First.Officer said:
It’s actually very easy to work out whether or not you can consume various food and drink with Type 2 Diabetes....if it looks tasty and enjoyable, then you can’t eat it in the main. :banghead:
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Or you can try it and test with your meter and, depending on the result, you will either be pleasantly surprised or decide it’s definately a no go food.
 
My comments were meant somewhat as a sarcastic lilt on my personal views to a degree. It appears i have offended at least one 'snowflake'. Get over it, its a sarcastic joke.
 
I do not like honey so I'm not missing out on it. Yesterday we had a family favourite of chicken and vegi stir fry, in the old days honey was a part of the marinade but since diagnosis I have left it out and no one has ever noticed. My family have the meat and vegis on a bed of rice but I get to have a double portion of the chicken and veg. Happy Days!
 
Antje77 said:
Depends. If I have a meal of meat and caramelized chicory, using only a teaspoon of honey for the caramelising I still have a very low carb meal (zero for the meat, up to 3 or 4 grams for the chicory, not sure how much a big potion of chicory weighs, as good as zero for the butter to fry, honey 4 to 5 grams), less than 10 grams of carbs a meal.
The same goes for a teaspoon of honey (4 to 5 grams) in your bowl of Greek yoghurt (200 grams of yoghurt is around 6 grams of carbs), which makes for a breakfast of around 10 grams of carbs.
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Beware fructose. Metabolised by the liver then stored as liver fat. Livers regard it as toxic. Fatty liver = insulin resistance.
 
Jim Lahey said:
I don’t think anyone has expressed being offended.
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Daphne917 said:
I can’t see anyone expressing offence either.
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I guess you could interpret my answer as being offended, but only if you've never heard my remarks when I AM offended...
Antje77 said:
If it was meant as a funny remark, I don't think it is.

There are definitely foods I miss (bread!) but why would you tell people who are struggling with their diabetes and food choices that almost anything they like is a no? Most people like a lot of foods we can eat without a single thought about blood sugar!
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First.Officer said:
It appears i have offended at least one 'snowflake'.
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On the other hand, it can't be me because it's simply unthinkable to refer to me as a snowflake. No-one will believe that! :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

I do think there's lots of room for improvement on First Officers sarcastic jokes, though.
 
First.Officer said:
My comments were meant somewhat as a sarcastic lilt on my personal views to a degree. It appears i have offended at least one 'snowflake'. Get over it, its a sarcastic joke.
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Can't be me
1 I haven't posted
2I don't know what a snowflake is
Carol
 
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