How long did it take you to stop craving sugar and stop feeling tired

Catsterr

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Hi,

I have reently been diagnosed as type 2. The amount of sugar I was previously eating was quite shocking.
I cut my sugar 4 weeks ago and I am still craving sugar and am still tired all the time. I was told this would last a couple of weeks tops but mine is dragging on and affecting my life like work etc. I'm starting to lose hope :(
How long did it take everyone else to adjust after cutting sugar?
 

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Hello and welcome to the forum. Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers.

It is not just sugar but carbohydrates as a whole that for those of us with metabolic dysfunction have to cut back on. Could you give us a typical day's menu, maybe we can help tweak your diet or identify where some of the hidden carbs are.

Have a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.

By the way, do you have a glucometer to use at home? If not I would advise getting one asap.
 

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Hi,

I have reently been diagnosed as type 2. The amount of sugar I was previously eating was quite shocking.
I cut my sugar 4 weeks ago and I am still craving sugar and am still tired all the time. I was told this would last a couple of weeks tops but mine is dragging on and affecting my life like work etc. I'm starting to lose hope :(
How long did it take everyone else to adjust after cutting sugar?

Hi there, you talk about cutting sugar which suggests you are still consuming some? What does 'sugar' mean to you because all carbs turn to glucose, have you cut your carbs? The reason I ask is because like any 'craving' cutting down does not necessarily get rid of the craving, ie if a person cuts down on cigs dos that stop the craving? Would you mind sharing a days menu for us? Be aware also that the way you feel could be down to something else, ie any medications you are on for example. The more info we have, the better we can help. x
 

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Hi,

I have reently been diagnosed as type 2. The amount of sugar I was previously eating was quite shocking.
I cut my sugar 4 weeks ago and I am still craving sugar and am still tired all the time. I was told this would last a couple of weeks tops but mine is dragging on and affecting my life like work etc. I'm starting to lose hope :(
How long did it take everyone else to adjust after cutting sugar?
There is something called carb flu that can occur if people cut out the carbs to quickly thats why it is better to do a bit at a time until you reach the level that suits .I would not think that after 4 weeks it is still the reason for you to still feel really tired all the time Maybe something else like a virus may be going on perhaps seeing you GP may be a good idea
 

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I think there are degrees of how far individuals can cut sugar addiction (strong word, but this is what I think it is). Sugar acts on the senses and apparently we are hard wired to get this hit for potential times of famine. In a modern context the famine (hopefully) is not with us hence the sugar related issues. Ensure you are getting enough potassium, avocados are a good source, and if you don't have hypertension sprinkle around half a teaspoon of sea salt on your meals.

If you can well formulate your low carb diet then your satiety should counteract / mitigate general food cravings. @Guzzler I think is insightful in asking for examples of your eating as this probably holds the key for you.

Sugar has been possibly high in your diet (like most people) for decades, so it will take a while for your body to adjust. From a physical performance standpoint it took me around 5 months to get fully into fat burning mode, I recall "hitting the wall" at around 3 miles of fast walking, now I can walk on an empty stomach and so a weights workout.
 
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May I ask if you have raised the level of healthy fats to compensate for the energy you have removed by going low carb? Some people are surprised by how much fats one has to have to fuel a body.

I get my energy from butter, lard, coconut oil, goose/duck fat, cheese, fatty meats and double cream (not all in one day of course!).
 

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@Catsterr
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

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I have just stopped sugary products fullstop. And a lot of carbs. As long as I can find tasty alternatives then I am happy. And that for me is the trick.
 

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I have been bingeing on carbs and sugar for over 10 years so I am convinced this is why it is taking me so long to adjust physically to life without carbs. I am exhausted all the time.
 

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May I ask if you have raised the level of healthy fats to compensate for the energy you have removed by going low carb? Some people are surprised by how much fats one has to have to fuel a body.

I get my energy from butter, lard, coconut oil, goose/duck fat, cheese, fatty meats and double cream (not all in one day of course!).
Hi,

Yes I have. I have started to include avocados, walnuts, tofu, dark chocolate, edamame beans, chia seeds and eggs in my diet.
 

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Hi,

Yes I have. I have started to include avocados, walnuts, tofu, dark chocolate, edamame beans, chia seeds and eggs in my diet.

May I ask if you follow a vegan/vegetarian diet? Apart from the avocado I see little fat in your list.
 

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It took me a few weeks of horrible withdrawal. After 6 months most of it was gone and at 12 months im a sober sugaraddict. Been low carbing nonstop for two years now and never miss carbs.
 

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Hi,

Yes I have. I have started to include avocados, walnuts, tofu, dark chocolate, edamame beans, chia seeds and eggs in my diet.
what about fats? Fats are very important for us, especially when we reduce our carbs. I have also found that the psychological craving for carbs can be as strong as physical cravings, and takes a while to go. I found giving up most of my carbs harder than giving up smoking, from a psychological point of view.

I used to have an eating disorder. It takes time to recover from that. You are doing very well.
 

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I have been bingeing on carbs and sugar for over 10 years so I am convinced this is why it is taking me so long to adjust physically to life without carbs. I am exhausted all the time.
Hi catsterr, I'm a lifelong overeater and binge eater, with a powerful carb addiction. Some people say when you become fat adapted the carb cravings go, and while I am sure this is true, I am prone to lapses so I haven't got there yet.

On the up side, experimenting with low carb/Keto and intermittent fasting, even when done imperfectly, has done me a world of good and I'm very proud of myself for not slipping back into total denial. I have felt so much better - not tired, better wee schedule, and genuine and lasting positivity.

It may be a lifelong battle for some of us (not saying it will be for you, of couse) but we can do a lot of good for ourselves even if we do remain carb addicted. Best of luck!
 

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Hi catsterr, I'm a lifelong overeater and binge eater, with a powerful carb addiction. Some people say when you become fat adapted the carb cravings go, and while I am sure this is true, I am prone to lapses so I haven't got there yet.

On the up side, experimenting with low carb/Keto and intermittent fasting, even when done imperfectly, has done me a world of good and I'm very proud of myself for not slipping back into total denial. I have felt so much better - not tired, better wee schedule, and genuine and lasting positivity.

It may be a lifelong battle for some of us (not saying it will be for you, of couse) but we can do a lot of good for ourselves even if we do remain carb addicted. Best of luck!

Thank you jpscloud. I have been addicted to carbs Im sure. Im weeks in and feel exhausted all the time. Just want to stuff my face in a cake
 

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Thank you jpscloud. I have been addicted to carbs Im sure. Im weeks in and feel exhausted all the time. Just want to stuff my face in a cake

Have you tried low carb baking? There are plenty of low carb cakes and puddings to be had, and although I’m not recommending you have a lot of them it might help the psychological nature of the sugar craving if you didn’t feel entirely deprived. Here are links to a couple:
www.everydaysugarfree.co.uk/single-post/2018/02/02/Lemon-Drizzle-Cake

www.nigella.com/recipes/chocolate-olive-oil-cake (replace caster sugar with erythritol)
 
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Sugar is a toxin. Sugar is an addiction. Sugar is a carb. In our society, it is almost impossible to totally avoid sugar. Depending on your age and how long you have been a "sugar addict", stopping "cold turkey" can be harmful and very discouraging. Looks like you are in your mid-life stage - a time of many life changes as we age :)

I was also a sugar addict and was diagnosed as pre-Diabetic then Type 2 later in life (4 years ago), and I am 70. 70 on the outside and 35 on the inside :) I inherited Diabetes from my mother's side of the family (long family history). She is 93 and also Type 2, and also diagnosed late in life (about 15 years ago).

All that said, just like being an alcoholic, you will always be a Diabetic and a lifestyle mindset is the first order on the agenda. Management is the key ingredient. Slowly the heavy craving will stop but you will most likely always be tempted by that lemon danish, butterscotch ice cream, birthday cake, and fast foods ... but that also will diminish. The less sugar/carb-rich foods you eat the less you will crave them over time. I can't stand white bread anymore, but still like bread (only lower carb versions - whole grain with Quinoa, for example, that are 6 or 7 carbs per slice). Snacks are now pieces of cheddar cheese or peanut butter on crackers. My appetite has slowed down considerably as a result. My wife says I don't eat enough, but I feel full after a small meal and quite often cannot even finish that. Breakfast is a Boost Diabetic drink (14 carbs) and if a hunger urge hits mid afternoon then the SlimFast Advanced Nutrition drink hits the spot with only 1 carb.

I am on Jardiance (Metformin does not agree with me at all) and that also helps. Meals are small and as low carb as I can psychologically handle. Meat is good. As we are told at the Diabetic education at our local Diabetic Clinic, "You can have a McDonalds Big Mac .. just don't eat the bun." LOL.

Life goes on and you will feel better overall due to a new lifestyle mindset and adjusted diet.

May the force be with you!
 

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I manage by eating very small portions of my favourite high carb foods in the middle of my low carb meal or as after meal dessert, e.g. 10g of potato chips, 20ml of whole milk with coffee no sugar, 2 tablespoon of cooked rice or noodle. Measure the amount, put it in a bowl and eat it slowly. I soon feel satisfied and will not crave for that anymore.
 
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cchan

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Sugar is a toxin. Sugar is an addiction. Sugar is a carb. In our society, it is almost impossible to totally avoid sugar. Depending on your age and how long you have been a "sugar addict", stopping "cold turkey" can be harmful and very discouraging. Looks like you are in your mid-life stage - a time of many life changes as we age :)

I was also a sugar addict and was diagnosed as pre-Diabetic then Type 2 later in life (4 years ago), and I am 70. 70 on the outside and 35 on the inside :) I inherited Diabetes from my mother's side of the family (long family history). She is 93 and also Type 2, and also diagnosed late in life (about 15 years ago).

All that said, just like being an alcoholic, you will always be a Diabetic and a lifestyle mindset is the first order on the agenda. Management is the key ingredient. Slowly the heavy craving will stop but you will most likely always be tempted by that lemon danish, butterscotch ice cream, birthday cake, and fast foods ... but that also will diminish. The less sugar/carb-rich foods you eat the less you will crave them over time. I can't stand white bread anymore, but still like bread (only lower carb versions - whole grain with Quinoa, for example, that are 6 or 7 carbs per slice). Snacks are now pieces of cheddar cheese or peanut butter on crackers. My appetite has slowed down considerably as a result. My wife says I don't eat enough, but I feel full after a small meal and quite often cannot even finish that. Breakfast is a Boost Diabetic drink (14 carbs) and if a hunger urge hits mid afternoon then the SlimFast Advanced Nutrition drink hits the spot with only 1 carb.

I am on Jardiance (Metformin does not agree with me at all) and that also helps. Meals are small and as low carb as I can psychologically handle. Meat is good. As we are told at the Diabetic education at our local Diabetic Clinic, "You can have a McDonalds Big Mac .. just don't eat the bun." LOL.

Life goes on and you will feel better overall due to a new lifestyle mindset and adjusted diet.

May the force be with you!

Very tempted to have a bunless big mac for a meal this weekend.