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How much carbs/sugar is allowed per item

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi, I'm getting myself very confused and really need help.

When reading a label ie on a yogurt, per 100g what should the carbs/sugar be please or be under. I am really struggling on what I can and can't have. I have been advised by a doctor and been to a forum but came out just as confused.

I am a type 2 diabetic who has gone off the rails a bit with it and I need to get back on track!

Thank you in advanced
 
Errr i tend to go by meal or day as its easier to work out 10g per meal and less than 50g per day , thats total carbs....


But thats me you can go higher or lower, I tend not to think of sugar just total carbs...........

Will tag @daisy1 who will help you with all the info you need
 
Hello. Welcome to the Confusion Club. I hope your little cherubs are being, well, little cherubs.
My tub of full-fat yoghurt says 3.8g carbs per 100g. Ignore the "of which sugars" bit. All carbs are sugar to us. So if I eat a fifth of the tub I'm eating about 4 carbs. This is fine for me on my fairly low-carb diet. Note that I eat full-fat dairy and meat to compensate for low-carb. Fat doesn't make you fat and it doesn't make your cholesterol level worse.
Have a look at what others are eating in the "what have you eaten today" thread of the low-carb-diet forum, and some of the recipes as well.
 
Hello. Welcome to the Confusion Club. I hope your little cherubs are being, well, little cherubs.
My tub of full-fat yoghurt says 3.8g carbs per 100g. Ignore the "of which sugars" bit. All carbs are sugar to us. So if I eat a fifth of the tub I'm eating about 4 carbs. This is fine for me on my fairly low-carb diet. Note that I eat full-fat dairy and meat to compensate for low-carb. Fat doesn't make you fat and it doesn't make your cholesterol level worse.
Have a look at what others are eating in the "what have you eaten today" thread of the low-carb-diet forum, and some of the recipes as well.
Thank you I will take a look. Is full fat better then, as i am eating muller light yogurts?
 
Errr i tend to go by meal or day as its easier to work out 10g per meal and less than 50g per day , thats total carbs....


But thats me you can go higher or lower, I tend not to think of sugar just total carbs...........

Will tag @daisy1 who will help you with all the info you need
Hi, thanks. So roughly you are looking at 50g max a day of carbs. Its so confusing, never really have understood. I believe that tomato soup has less sugar then vegetable soup,so i would go for the tomato soup but I dont think thats right either. I need a Pa to work these things out for me ha ha
 
@Mumof6littlecherubs

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information, mentioned above, which we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi, thanks. So roughly you are looking at 50g max a day of carbs. Its so confusing, never really have understood. I believe that tomato soup has less sugar then vegetable soup,so i would go for the tomato soup but I dont think thats right either. I need a Pa to work these things out for me ha ha
Hi and welcome to the confusion!

Personally I think 50g is very ambitious to start with - I would aim for 100g to 150g to start with. If you are going to try the LCHF diet head on, then full fat yoghurt would be the way to go. However, you need to look at your overall carb/calorie count for your own personal situation / weight.

There is a good book called Carbs & Cals - you can get it from Amazon, it is really helpful. Look at Daisy's advice and download the recipe book from the website, great recipes. :)
 
Yep 130 g per day is still considered low carb (ish) :) , so its a good figure to start with and as DeejayR says ignore the "of which sugars" on packets just look at the total carbs........

Even if you are not going the full LCHF route steer well clear of "Low Fat" options of anything as they invariably have higher sugar content......

So coffee with full cream is fine(I use stevia but not other sweeteners) bacon, eggs, high meat sausages and mushrooms is a staple low carb brekky :) and enjoy the guilt free trip:)

Lots of us use Lidl high protein low carb rolls , I slice mine into three so 4g carbs each slice

low or nil amounts of spuds root veg, rice pasta bread etc.....


Lots of meat and veg, cauli broccoli etc etc..........


Collins do a handy little book on carbs .........
 
As you've already been told low carb can be anything under 130g carbs a day. There's no fixed rule about how many carbs you should eat - it will depend on:
  • how well you can cope with eating a lower carb higher fat diet long term; there's no point in trying a very strict (e.g. below 50g carbs a day) diet, if you can't keep it up, and keep falling off the wagon!
  • how your body is able to handle carbohydrates. Different people here have different levels/types of diabetes or are pre-diabetic, and so the number of carbs they are able to eat is, to an extent, unique to them. So what you choose to, or able to, eat will depend on how much various foods raise your glucose levels, and you should to use a meter to test your glucose levels before and after meals, and use this as a guide, i.e. "eat to your meter".
Definitely best to start around 130g carbs a day, and work your way down if necessary. Doing it this way will also help your body adapt to less sugar and starch in your diet - some people can suffer from withdrawal symptoms, aka carb flu, if they suddenly go "cold turkey". But this way may also help you see how much you need to reduce your carbs intake.

As a rough guide I try to avoid any foods with more than 10g carbs per 100g weight, unless I eat (or drink) it in very small quantities, in which case I'd consider up to 20g carbs per 100g weight - e.g. I eat some 85% dark chocolate with about 19g carbs a 100g bar, but a single piece is just under 2g carbs which I consider acceptable - but would no way eat the whole bar in one go. The lower carb you choose to go the more you have to make judgement calls over where your carbs come from, as you need to make sure that the carbs you eat come from nutritional foods - rather than carby treats - to ensure you eat a sensible and healthy diet.

Robbity
 
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Thing to remember though is that its a healthy lifestyle not to see anything as a diet....

We're all individuals, all our chemistry, genes and biolgical factors are completely different. One size doesn't fit all.
 
Thank you I will take a look. Is full fat better then, as i am eating muller light yogurts?

Form here: http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=268805041
Code:
Ingredients: Yogurt (Milk), Strawberries (10%), Water, Fructose Modified Maize Starch, ...

Yes full fat is nearly always better for us diabetics. When they take out the fat they usually add more sugar to keep it palatable.

Over the years a lot of processed foods have been reformulated so as to contain less fat and more sugar, it actually cost less to produce like that and saves the manufacturers money. When you remove the fat it makes it less filling, so people eat more. It also allows them call it "light" and add a bunch of other health claims to it, so really a win win situation for the manufactures. Ultimately however we have all been fooled, and these products are really less healthy for everyone, but particular for those of us prone to diabetes.

TBH that Muller yogurt isn't all that bad. It's about 8g carb per 100g and I've seen a whole lot worse in my local supermarket. It still corresponds to nearly 15 grams of carbs per each little 175g serve, so it really wouldn't be on my snack list.
 
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