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How to manage 2 diseases

Inchindown

Inchindown

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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I'm type 2 and try to keep to a reduced carb/extra fat diet. Diagnosed about 3 years ago.

I've also recently had my second heart attack. I had heart problems long before I had diabetes.

My heart doctor wants me to eat a balanced diet to help with heart health. But that sort of diet sends my sugar through the roof.

To complicate things further I have bit of a problem with binge eating. Which doesn't help either condition.

So any ideas on the best way to manage these 2 conditions would be helpful.

It seems to me that the heart problem is liable to do me in before the bad effects of diabetes kick in. So I'm inclined to go for the balanced diet and take my chances with the diabetes.

Thanks for any guidance.
 
Hello @Inchindown Sounds like you have your hands full. I cannot comment on how best to manage both conditions, however tackling your binge eating could be a good starting point and getting some support in managing this behaviour, can you speak to your GP and get a referral for some Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, it may help to learn how to control this behaviour with some support: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/binge-eating/treatment/
 
Juicyj said:
Hello @Inchindown Sounds like you have your hands full. I cannot comment on how best to manage both conditions, however tackling your binge eating could be a good starting point and getting some support in managing this behaviour, can you speak to your GP and get a referral for some Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, it may help to learn how to control this behaviour with some support: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/binge-eating/treatment/
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I was referred to a psychiatrist about the binge eating, but all she wanted to do was give me some pills.

I was told I had been referred to a psychologist but that was almost 3 years ago. I even tried to go for private CBT, but they all had waiting list of years.

Thanks for the binge link. I'll have a look at that later.
 
Inchindown said:
I was referred to a psychiatrist about the binge eating, but all she wanted to do was give me some pills.

I was told I had been referred to a psychologist but that was almost 3 years ago. I even tried to go for private CBT, but they all had waiting list of years.

Thanks for the binge link. I'll have a look at that later.
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Try again, things may of changed now ?
 
Inchindown said:
I'm type 2 and try to keep to a reduced carb/extra fat diet. Diagnosed about 3 years ago.

I've also recently had my second heart attack. I had heart problems long before I had diabetes.

My heart doctor wants me to eat a balanced diet to help with heart health. But that sort of diet sends my sugar through the roof.

To complicate things further I have bit of a problem with binge eating. Which doesn't help either condition.

So any ideas on the best way to manage these 2 conditions would be helpful.

It seems to me that the heart problem is liable to do me in before the bad effects of diabetes kick in. So I'm inclined to go for the balanced diet and take my chances with the diabetes.

Thanks for any guidance.
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I have faced a similar dilemma though not as severe as in your case. My approach has been to gently gently lower my carbs and up my fats but not in a big way. Just gently. This has helped me with blood pressure and diabetes issues.

Whilst I feel I cannot advise you I am at least letting you now how I have approached having two issues to consider.
 
See https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pioppi-Die...d=1551790272&sr=8-1&keywords=pioppi+diet+book as it is written by one of the leading UK heart doctors.

As diabetes is one of the largest risk factors for heart attacks, it is likely your diabetes contributed to you having a heart attack.

Remember with a low carb diet, unless your BMI is low, you don't need to add fat provided you don't advoid the natural fat that comes with most meat and fish. A ribeye steak has all the fat you need in it, likewise if you leave the skins on chicken.
 
Inchindown said:
I'm type 2 and try to keep to a reduced carb/extra fat diet. Diagnosed about 3 years ago.

I've also recently had my second heart attack. I had heart problems long before I had diabetes.

My heart doctor wants me to eat a balanced diet to help with heart health. But that sort of diet sends my sugar through the roof.

To complicate things further I have bit of a problem with binge eating. Which doesn't help either condition.

So any ideas on the best way to manage these 2 conditions would be helpful.

It seems to me that the heart problem is liable to do me in before the bad effects of diabetes kick in. So I'm inclined to go for the balanced diet and take my chances with the diabetes.

Thanks for any guidance.
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Whatever you do dont underestimate diabetes. IMHO is the most demanding of diseases and requires constant attention and effort to manage.. I say this after 30 years of heart troubles ,heart attack,quadruple bypass surgery and more recently cancer. Diet and a bit of daily exercise will bring you well earned rewards. Be strong and determined and the rest will follow. I wish you all the best.
 
ringi said:
See https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pioppi-Die...d=1551790272&sr=8-1&keywords=pioppi+diet+book as it is written by one of the leading UK heart doctors.

As diabetes is one of the largest risk factors for heart attacks, it is likely your diabetes contributed to you having a heart attack.

Remember with a low carb diet, unless your BMI is low, you don't need to add fat provided you don't advoid the natural fat that comes with most meat and fish. A ribeye steak has all the fat you need in it, likewise if you leave the skins on chicken.
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I had my first heart attack 10 years before I was diagnosed with diabetes, so I don't think the diabetes would have been a factor. My T2 diagnosis was a genuine new diagnosis rather than a long running disease that wasn't diagnosed.

I'll have a look at that diet book and thanks for the tips on natural fat.
 
Inchindown said:
I had my first heart attack 10 years before I was diagnosed with diabetes, so I don't think the diabetes would have been a factor. My T2 diagnosis was a genuine new diagnosis rather than a long running disease that wasn't diagnosed.

I'll have a look at that diet book and thanks for the tips on natural fat.
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often we are pre-diabetic or have developed insulin resistance many many years before it get to the stage of being diagnosed with full blown diabetes. Looking back through m medical records I discovered that my blood sugar levels had been creeping since my last pregnancy, where I had gestational diabetes. My son is now 24 years old. He was 17 when i got my type 2 diagnosis, so it took 18 years nearly for it to develop in me. For type 2's it often does not happen suddenly, it creeps up over a very long time.

I low-ish carb at around 100g of carbs a day, and just eat full fat foods, without adding fats to anything. My diabetes has gone back to pre-diabetic levels, and kept there for the past 7 years.
 
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