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Tannedhaggis

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I was wondering at what point does the hunger subsidise. It seems to take a lot for me to arrive at satiety. It’s scary to consume so many calories after a lifetime of being brain washed. This morning I had two scrambled eggs with butter and 150 gram of streaky bacon. I was still hungry! So I then had a bulletproof coffee. My brain is struggling with eating nearly 1000 calories for breakfast.
I know I’m not fat adapted yet, but I struggle to get my carbs below 40 for a day.
Any advise would be appreciated.
 
How long have you been keto?

I found that skipping breakfast ( in the morning anyway) led to the ability to fast for longer periods.
Once I start eating I find it harder to not eat.

Maybe try just the coffee and don't eat anything solid until after noon? I just start my day with multiple coffees with cream, usually 3 before noon.
 
Add another egg and a tomato - it is what I would do.
You might just fry the eggs - they actually absorb less fat that way.
Your hunger might just be your metabolism springing back into life after years of undernourishment, and with a few good meals under your belt the hunger might subside.
 
Thank you for the advice. Yes, as soon as I start eating I am more hungry than I was originally!
I have been low carb on and off for the past couple of year. Started keto about 9 months ago and lost 7 kilo in a couple of months. However my cholesterol went to 7.7 and my Dr wanted to put me on statins. I think I used this as an excuse to fall off the wagon and quickly gained back nearly all that I had lost.

So I have started to educate myself by listening to Ivor Cummins and the like, podcasts and got a calcium heart scan. With a score of 37, I am in the higher risk (top 16%) for my age group (59). Found myself a new Dr who specialises in Keto and starting the journey again.

Will try and build in a longer fasting time before my feasting starts. Thanks again for both replies.
 
Yes. Women can have much lower calcium scores than men, and be at higher risk. It is because wimmins hormones protect them from calcium deposits until they pass menopause. The ‘risk scale’ is completely different for men and women.

As for your hunger @Tannedhaggis i would suggest that you try to keep protein at ‘normal’ levels (whatever they are!) and fill up on fat. By that, I don’t mean go mad, just add mayo or butter or cream, instead of an extra egg, or sausage, or more chicken.

Of course that is exactly what you did by having the bulletproof coffee.
 
Out of interest where do you get these calcium scans: if Nhs what sort of criteria to be referred for one and if private what sort of price range are they?
 
I am in Australia and it’s not covered by insurance here. It was $150au and I had a Dr referral. Check out Ivor Cummins website. He has lots of info on where and how. He is based in Ireland so may have the relevant info.
 
IHDA.ie website has been further streamlined to deliver the best information on identifying and preventing heart attacks. The interactive register of the world’s CT Scanning centers to get your CAC score has been expanded and greatly improved – just go to the “Scan Centers“ tab
 

Remember it takes 15 minutes for your brain to register you are full. Are you drinking a large glass of water with each meal. That helps. Wait and see if you are REALLY still hungry.
 
Carbs give a hormonal hunger response (for more carbs). I was frequently hungry 2 weeks ago, I reduced my carb intake (Keto is 20g max) and within 2 days the constant hunger vanished and normality returned...
 
With feeling hunger, I remember years ago reading about grelin levels - and that individuals really do vary. And now I think about it, isn't it one of the things affected by bariatric surgery - that it cuts the grelin production? In other words, not everyone here really will be experiencing things the same way?

One of the things I've had to learn is that although it's unpleasant (and can stop me going to sleep or wake me up), experiencing hunger isn't the end of the world. More than unpleasant, but as the diabetic nurse said to me in one conversation about coping with hyperuricemia and gout and T2 diabetes, that it was only the diabetes which could kill me if I didn't look after myself. Puts things in perspective?
 
I found it was actually to fast altogether than start keto. I did a 24-hour fast back when I was eating a "normal" diet and then a 5-day fast after I had cut carbs (but not keto).

After a fast I had less problems with hunger.
 

i am over a year into this.
and i would agree wholeheartedly with @bulkbiker

IF i don't eat, i feel fine..(i was a greedy Bu**er, once i started eating)
but once i eat now, then i just feel i need more food.

for me , that was just the boredom factor.

if i ate then went straight to work, i wasn't hungry,
but if i ate then sat for say 10 minutes, yep, i wanted something else..

the drink of water is a good idea.
or just have something to do and just leave the table..
once your mind is on to something else, the hunger might just recede.
(simple to implement..and at no cost, to boot)

fascinating, just how different the calcium scores actually are...48 v 1..

best wishes for finding your way to skipping that extra sausage or two.
my breakfast many days is just a few slices of cheese, some nuts and a cup of tea
NEVER, would i have ever considered THAT enough to get me by..yet it does admirably most days.
 
I started on a really careful low-carb diet around 4 months ago, with a repeat HbA1c test as a target - to get down from 52, the highest it had ever been since T2 diagnosis in 2015 (no medication so far). It brought it down to 41, but I would say I was battling with hunger on and off throughout the whole 3 months. However, in the last week or so, I think that's actually changed! I'm adding this to the thread because it suggests to me that we really do vary in how our metabolisms respond to all this.
 
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