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Diligent500

Diligent500

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Sheffield
Type of diabetes
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Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
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I dislike being diabetic and two heavy I am 80kg and want to get down to 50 kg very soon.
Hi to all,

I went to see maxine diabetes nurse she says i have to start again re insulin and slow release metformin wont change me to differant insulin cus says the novomix is the best one.

My bs are in 26 to 30 range but when i didnt each much yesterday last night it was 13.6

I am under a lot of stress these past couple of weeks with family ect*****
Think i will try lo carb n see what happens.

Diligent500.
 
Low carb high fat way of eating should reduce your blood sugars, but in turn you will need to be ready to reduce your insulin. How low was you planing to go with the low carb.. around the 20g a day worked for me .. but I was not on any medication for reducing blood sugars.
 
You have been here since 2015, so perhaps it has taken rather a long time before you are considering low carb. Drugs like Metformin only drop blood glucose by about 1 or 2 mmol/l, so it is much less effective than eating a low carb diet.

When diagnosed by blood sugar was 13.1 and HbA1C was 99. A few weeks after taking Metformin and cutting out sugary things in my diet it was 9.8. Going on a Low Carb High Fat diet help me to gradually drop blood sugars to below 7.0 in a few more weeks.

It does take some effort to switch foods you have been habitually eating. You need to cut down or stop eating things like breakfast cereals, bread, potatoes, pasta, rice and fruit juice.

I now have a one egg cheese omelette for breakfast instead of eating cereals. I have stopped eating potatoes and chips with meals. Instead I have some steamed vegetables. I have stopped eating pasta and just bought a spiralizer so I can make courgette spaghetti. Instead of rice I now have cauliflower rice made using a food processor (you can just use a grater). For lunch during the week I have a salad with cheese instead of a sandwich.

For snacks I eat babybel cheese and nuts (walnuts are good as they have lots of omega3). I also have strawberries an double cream as a treat. Occasionally I eat a couple of squares on Lindt 90% Cocoa chocolate.
 
Diligent500 said:
Hi to all,

I went to see maxine diabetes nurse she says i have to start again re insulin and slow release metformin wont change me to differant insulin cus says the novomix is the best one.

My bs are in 26 to 30 range but when i didnt each much yesterday last night it was 13.6

I am under a lot of stress these past couple of weeks with family ect*****
Think i will try lo carb n see what happens.

Diligent500.
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low carb will make it much easier to control blood glucose,

if you try eating breakfast totally without carbs it will also be much easier for you to get your numbers down.. like bacon and eggs and fried tomatoes for breakfast or avocado with salsa , or just boiled eggs NO BREAD , if you miss bread very much you can buy LIDL´s high protein Rolls they only contain very little number of carbs .. they can both be toasted and also frozen for later use if you buy many at a time, they are in the freshly baked area in LIDL shops..

try for a week to be under 100 grams of carbs a day all included , and see if that is low enough to lower your blood glucose to a normal level like under 6.5mmol to many that is low enough but some have to go even lower...

if you take a walk right after your meals you are also helping your body to use all the blood glucose and you´ll also get healthyer in other ways..



 
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At the moment you are outstripping the insulin - suffering carb overload, but do be aware that eating low carb is very effective at lowering blood glucose levels, and the effect for me has been accumulative, so now I can eat more carbs and see my numbers falling week by week, but I can't eat 100gm of carbs a day - though we are all different to see really effective drops you might need to reduce your carb intake to 60 gm or less - but go slowly and test, or you could easily go hypo - or feel as though you are.
I think that getting down from such high number as you are seeing now is a matter of urgency - but once you are seeing reductions be very cautious and go slowly.
My numbers are below 7 most of the time, even after meals, on no medication at all, but they are not stable, eating unwisely or even fasting can raise them again. The diet, though is lovely - I can go on like this far a long long time without any thought of returning to a high carb diet.
 
Freema said:
low carb will make it much easier to control blood glucose,

if you try eating breakfast totally without carbs it will also be much easier for you to get your numbers down.. like bacon and eggs and fried tomatoes for breakfast or avocado with salsa , or just boiled eggs NO BREAD , if you miss bread very much you can buy LIDL´s high protein Rolls they only contain very little number of carbs .. they can both be toasted and also frozen for later use if you buy many at a time, they are in the freshly baked area in LIDL shops..

try for a week to be under 100 grams of carbs a day all included , and see if that is low enough to lower your blood glucose to a normal level like under 6.5mmol to many that is low enough but some have to go even lower...

if you take a walk right after your meals you are also helping your body to use all the blood glucose and you´ll also get healthyer in other ways..



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Hmm - 6 foods which do not raise blood glucose levels in diabetics - well - apart from the flax seeds, nuts and non starchy vegetables they got some right - but for me, seeds, nuts and salad stuffs are all carbs which raise my blood glucose levels.
For me there are no such things as carb containing foods which do not affect my readings.
A no carb breakfast for me can't contain tomatoes or avocado, because they are carbs which raise my BG levels, but these days I can't do no carb or my BG drops so low.
I can eat the Lidl rolls, but they do affect me - by two whole numbers per roll.
To get to below 7 mmol/l I have to eat well under 100gm of carbs a day, 50 or 60 is the absolute limit for about 7, but I will have to cut down even more as I have lowered my insulin resistance and I am putting on weight. I am even fasting - but that puts up my readings. I lose a bit of weight, then put it on again. Maybe try eating very early and then quite late - that is something I have not yet tried.
 
Resurgam said:
I have lowered my insulin resistance and I am putting on weight.
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I have seen elsewhere that you are attributing your recent weight gain to improved insulin resistance. From everything I have read it is the other way round. Insulin resistance causes weight gain. And as they go hand in hand, weight gain also causes insulin resistance. A vicious circle. I haven't found any literature saying lowering insulin resistance makes you gain weight. If you do know of any such literature I would be pleased to read it.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
I have seen elsewhere that you are attributing your recent weight gain to improved insulin resistance. From everything I have read it is the other way round. Insulin resistance causes weight gain. And as they go hand in hand, weight gain also causes insulin resistance. A vicious circle. I haven't found any literature saying lowering insulin resistance makes you gain weight. If you do know of any such literature I would be pleased to read it.
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Insulin is the fat producing hormone.
Individuals with uncontrolled diabetes lose glucose in the urine, as it has nowhere to go.
Changing the metabolism by eating low carb means blood glucose levels go down, and then down again because insulin production in type 2 diabetics is high.
I have lost weight, dropped my BG levels to normal - stopped losing weight for some months and now I am back to how I was for decades, putting on weight very easily.
I am responding to the insulin my pancreas produces by putting on weight and for the first time in years I am feeling hungry as my BG drops.
My liver is releasing glucose when I fast, because I am storing it rather than having it floating around in my blood.
I doubt that there are many people doing research into how LCHF changed metabolism - most people who are now realising that it does work seem to be a tad bewildered by what is seen in the first few weeks, so actual studies of what goes on long term seem to be totally absent.
 
Resurgam said:
Insulin is the fat producing hormone.
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Yes, I agree, so when there is too much insulin there is weight gain. Perhaps you just have too much insulin?

Resurgam said:
insulin production in type 2 diabetics is high.
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It will only be high if you are insulin resistant, or if you stuff yourself with carbs. If you are eating low carb there is no reason for you to have too much insulin - unless you still are very insulin resistant.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Yes, I agree, so when there is too much insulin there is weight gain. Perhaps you just have too much insulin?



It will only be high if you are insulin resistant, or if you stuff yourself with carbs. If you are eating low carb there is no reason for you to have too much insulin - unless you still are very insulin resistant.
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I hope that I am in the throes of changing back to normal - but it didn't all go wrong overnight so I suspect that it will take time to reverse.
 
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