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Gingercake113

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Someone please help! My mum has type 2 diabeties and refuses to go to the doctors. Her blood sugar is coming in at 24 and blood pressure has been recoreded as 178. What can the family do to help. She had ulcers appear on her legs and burst, leaving wounds on her leg. Please help
 
Hi @Gingercake113 welcome to the forum I will tag @daisy1 who has a lot of information for new members.

I will also tag @Rachox who may be able to give you a little more info.

In the meantime have a look at the info on the homepage of the site, there is lots about T2 and information about reducing blood glucose levels.
 
Hi Gingercake. So sorry to hear about your Mum and how lovely that you’re trying to help her. Can you tell us if she’s on medication and if so what? Also does she eat any particular diet? She really does need to get her sugars under control to help her legs heal, but it’s very difficult to persuade someone if they are adamant they don’t want to help themselves too. Does she cook her own meals or does the family? If you cook for her we can help you modify her diet to reduce her sugars.
 
If someone doesn't want to acknowledge they have diabetes and the need to control their blood glucose then there is little anyone else can do.
Many people with type two diabetes can avoid complications by not eating high carbohydrate foods, I am fortunate enough to have no need of medication, but I don't eat potatoes, rice, pasta, porridge, biscuits, cake, shop bought bread - as they all are too high in carbs for me to eat safely. There has always been so much emphasis on eating 'healthy' carbs that it can be very difficult to accept that they cause the complications of diabetes.
I can only advise that you look at the advice on the forum and perhaps read the thread on the things people are eating day to day.
Does your mum have any medication? Is she called in for checks on her sight etc. as that should be done automatically.
 
Hi,
Sorry to hear about your mum, maybe she is scared to go. Would she go if someone went with her?
Does she have any other health problems.
Her blood sugar is high, are district nurses dressing her ulcers? Maybe involve them to persuade your mum to go to the Drs.
Has she had bad experiences with Drs?
Hope she doesn't get any complications.
Maybe her GP might do a home visit.
Here to help and to listen.
Take care
 
There are so many reasons why someone does not want to go to the doctor even though it is obvious to everyone that they need help. Why do you know that her blood sugars and blood pressure are so high? The best thing that the family can do is to support her with a lower carb diet and encouraging her to take care of herself.
 
Hi @Gingercake113, Sometimes denial is used as a form of coping. Maybe your mum has been criticised by the doctor, or fearful of bad news from the doctor or ignores the signs of her health deteriorating.
However: if she is prescribed medication of any sort she will need to see the doctor (and should not be allowed to ring up for scripts over the phone); if she drives a car she will need a medical for driving and with high BSLs her vision is likely to be affected to some degree and poor control affects her ability to keep her license; does she have a district nurse visit regarding her leg ulcers? the nurse will be reporting back to her doctor who may either home visit (if you are lucky !!) or call for your mother to attend an appointment with him/her; her ulcers could well become infected - does she wish to be sent to hospital or see the GP ?
In addition I second all that other people had said.
 
@Gingercake113

Hello Gingercake and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Well I hate going to the doctor because I hate being told off for not following advice when I have followed it to the letter and it's the advice that is wrong. Maybe your Mum has just given up trying to improve her glucose levels because nothing she has tried works? If that's the case then a low carb diet may help her longer term. Short term though she needs to get immediate help with the ulcers, I suggest someone goes with her to make sure that she gets the sympathetic care that she needs.
 
@Gingercake113 I was sorry to read your post . Your mums situation reminded me of my own mother. She was diagnosed with diabetes in her 80s and could not get to grips with tailoring her diet. She too had leg ulcers and these did not heal partly because she did not reduce her sugar intake. All you can do is to try and find out what is causing her fears of the doctors and try to reassure her. As mentioned by a previous poster she really needs her legs treated and dressed. I hope you will let us know how you get on .
 
I'm so sorry to hear about your mum. Denial is a very common and powerful coping mechanism and sometimes close family members, motivated by love, fear and a need to make someone accept what is happening, can make the person retreat into their denial state even further. Is there a friend who might help? Sometimes someone a little more removed can approach the subject differently.

I do hope you and she can move forward on this.
 
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