In-flight Meals!

[bulkbiker]

Below are the nutritiion facts for Frank's Vannilla Diabetic Ice cream if that is the same.
Nutrition
Typical Values per 100g
Energy (kJ) 675
Energy (kcal) 161
Fat (g) 7.3
of which saturates (g) 6.1
Carbohydrate (g) 19.7
of which sugars (g) 13.8
Fibre (g) 0.5
Protein (g) 4.1
Salt (g) 0.1

I think it should be renamed.. "Franks Make you Diabetic Ice Cream" ..... give thanks for Oppo...

 

[Deleted Account]

I think it should be renamed.. "Franks Make you Diabetic Ice Cream" ..... give thanks for Oppo...

It is less carbs per 100g than most ice creams which seem to be around 23 to 25g.
Not a lot, I grant you but the average person will have to eat a lot of 20% carb ice cream to get type 2 diabetes.

 

[bulkbiker]

It is less carbs per 100g than most ice creams which seem to be around 23 to 25g.
Not a lot, I grant you but the average person will have to eat a lot of 20% carb ice cream to get type 2 diabetes.

Sorry... humour obviously gets lost in the heat...

 

[Dr Snoddy]

I have had a terrible time trying to get meals on BA long- haul flights as I do not eat meat and follow a LCMF diet. I have ended up with no special diet at all then a repeat performance on the return leg. Last year on a flight to Argentina I tried every avenue including ringing the airline in advance. Having received the usual guarantee I ended up with a low calorie meal based on chicken and boiled potatoes! Someone else on the flight also had the wrong meal so they swapped mine for pasta and tomato sauce! I now just buy my own salad etc at the airport for the return leg and always travel with nuts.
Thanks for the tip on Asian vegetarian. I look forward to a change in the official advice for food for T2 changing!

 

[Dr Snoddy]

I wonder how the airline would respond to a letter pointing out the error of their ways. It's worth baring in mind that from where dieticians and nutritionists stand at the moment, a diabetic meal is probably one that contains carbs with a low G.I.and avoids sugars, rather than low carb. Type IIs who choose to lower their carb intake are in a minority. I know several type IIs who wouldn't even consider giving up their bread/pasta/potato/rice, they just keep taking the tablets.

I was just looking at BA's offerings in advance of a trip to Mexico next September. You can choose from Lacto-ovo-vegetarian, Vegan vegetarian, Asian/Hindu vegetarian, Muslim, Kosher, child meal, baby meal, gluten intolerant, low fat, low salt, low calorie, low lactose and diabetic for which they say: "Does not contain sugars, syrups, jams, cakes and chocolate, unless they're specific diabetic varieties to help you manage your blood sugar levels". I suppose that's a start but considering the varieties they do I'm sure they could manage a low carb diabetic meal. Normally I've just left the bits I'd rather not eat, often thinking a bit of extra veg would be nice. I'll have to see what they say.

Good luck with that David. I shall be interested to hear if you have better luck with BA than I do. I could suggest 20 meals that should be within airline catering's budget and capabilities but all attempts so far have fallen on deaf ears. I would rather BA took £50 off the fare and let me provide my own luxury picnic hamper. Like that's going to happen.

 

[dbr10]

When I was first diagnosis she’d, I was told there is no point in eating anything which is designated as “diabetic”food.
This include airline meals as well as diabetic chocolate and “diabetic ice cream” (which I saw in Waitrose today).

They don't understand what being diabetic means. I went away earlier this year and we had an included packed lunch - I'd asked for LCHF - still lots of stuff I couldn't eat, but they had tried.

 

[DavidGrahamJones]

Good luck with that David.

They certainly make it nigh impossible to communicate with them unless you have a complaint. Still, at least I've tried. I've usually gone without in the past, so not really a big deal

I now ask for Asian vegetarian

I might give that a try.

 

[AloeSvea]

As a frequent trans-global traveller in years past, I ditched the rolls and starchy veg and rice, and just ate the meat and veg. I 'fatted up' with mixed nuts, pork scratchings, brought onboard, and it's all good.

I have considered fasting during those long multi leg journeys (shortest one was 24 hours in the air, 27 hours altogether) (for such long journeys they still need to stop off to fill up on gas as yet), but I love the being waited on and the little TV-dinners, and the socialising that mealtimes on such journeys brings about. Ditto the glass of wine with the dinners. Anything to break up the 'sardines-in-a-can' experience.

I have since heard that you can actually order two meals! For upping the meat/veg amount. That it is an option. I guess you would have to explain why? I smile sweetly in such situations and tell anyone who will listen, "Carbs kill me, you know, so when I can choose I choose life," or some such. All in the name of education. But I haven't tried that out on flight attendants, it must be admitted. (My guess is they would merely smile sweetly back, and complain bitterly out the back with coworkers! But do we care? No! .)

 

[AloeSvea]

The benefit of the ditching high-carb food is lucky Herr Svea got two desserts, and two bread rolls every dinner! Lucky non-diabetic dude.

 

[Scimama]

The benefit of the ditching high-carb food is lucky Herr Svea got two desserts, and two bread rolls every dinner! Lucky non-diabetic dude.

We do the same, I get the families salad and cheese portion, they have the rest of the meal (bread roll etc)

Some of the worst meals we have seen are for children - one that sticks in my mind was a jam sandwich on white bread, with sugary yogurt, cake, ***** sweets, orange juice and white bread roll (no idea why extra bread) This was on a transatlanic flight with a well know carrier in their premier class - sugar fest for kids stuck for 9 hours in a metal tube! who planned that one!

My kids wouldnt even try it and had an adult meal.

 

[Antje77]

The benefit of the ditching high-carb food is lucky Herr Svea got two desserts, and two bread rolls every dinner! Lucky non-diabetic dude.

Hope you got his greens and meats!

 

[TonyHancock]

Not sure the airlines are to blame for this. I suspect the catering companies follow guidelines and primarily produce diabetic meals for Type 1's.

I ordered a diabetic meal once just to see what it was like. The plate was pretty much fish and loads of white rice. (This was in First Class.) These days I pick and choose from the main menu when I can, and usually opt for salads and then beef or chicken. I leave the carbs on the plate.

 

[AloeSvea]

Hope you got his greens and meats!

Poor guy has to eat healthy stuff too! . (And lucky man does not have a sweet tooth.)

 

[AloeSvea]

We do the same, I get the families salad and cheese portion, they have the rest of the meal (bread roll etc)

Some of the worst meals we have seen are for children - one that sticks in my mind was a jam sandwich on white bread, with sugary yogurt, cake, ***** sweets, orange juice and white bread roll (no idea why extra bread) This was on a transatlanic flight with a well know carrier in their premier class - sugar fest for kids stuck for 9 hours in a metal tube! who planned that one!

My kids wouldnt even try it and had an adult meal.

Nine hours? Child's play .

Ghastly to read what constitutes a good children's meal in a confined space! Goodness gracious! And great to read how your clever kids deal with that. Adult meals - yay.

 

[milesrf]

The low carb meals that are best for type 2 tend to be enough more expensive to prepare that not many airlines offer them.

 

[rhubarb73]

I have a little bit of sympathy with the airline here. As a relative newcomer myself to T2, I understand that people are ignorant and confused in the general world about what is the right diet for diabetics, especially when healthcare advice even just in the UK is inconsistent, let alone the rest of the world. I was ignorant myself until quite recently. Add to that, there are multiple types of Diabetes all with their own nuances, not to mention all the other conditions and cultural preferences we expect them to be expert on. To manage/control condition many people on this take an extremely zealous and committed approach - it is what works for many. But we should take care that doesn't spill into expecting the whole world to suddenly understand life through our lens.
My approach now when ordering food anywhere (restaurants, transport, friends house) is to either ask them to drop or exchange the carby bits or just leave them on the side of the plate. We should manage our own expectations of others a bit.

 

[Smallbrit]

Two meals! I'm on hols soon, and never knew this. I want two meals

I usually just eat the bits I can from aeroplane food and leave the rest. Which is sort of what I did all my life from young - it's just the bits I choose now have changed. The joy of travelling in my family of four is that we can all swap out the bits we like with each other.

 

[Resurgam]

I went to my godmother's funeral recently and had to take a plateful of sandwiches and eat the fillings - there were loads of my cousins and other relatives there - she was my mother's sister, and I now know that I have type two diabetes in both parent's families.
Doomed from the start, I suspect. If only Atkins had not been dismissed as a fad diet and I had been encouraged to eat low carb for the last 40 years, I'd have cried a lot less for a start.

 

[briped]

View attachment 27501 This is the "Diabetic Meal" I was served last week, in addition to the rice it included a date and fig compote!! and packet of crackers. About the only thing that was T2 friendly was the packets of cheese. Couldn't help but wonder about the competence of the dietician who constructed the "diabetic meal".

That looks exactly like the first meal I was served after being admitted to hospital 3 years ago. I had my husband bring me almonds, which they scrutinised carefully for contraband contents. The rest of the days were no better, which was one reason I discharged myself prematurely, and successfully took care of my own diet, at least till my mum passed one year later.

 

[Jenniewren1958]

Recent flight to France
they sold tapas, it was lovely