I'm ok with the choc/vanilla/strawberry-flavour vomi.... (a good mixer/blender is vital!) but one of the question marks over VLCD shakes, bars etc is the fact that they are very sweet. Some VLCDs have soups and savoury sachets which does help (does the ND?) but if the shakes are all sweet, what about those who crave sweet things? I am again thinking of post-ND - if you have a sweet tooth, which may or may not have contributed to T2, I wonder if that craving has disappeared? There is a huge amount of psychology wrapped up in VLCDs. Please don't misconstrue my pondering - I love reading members' successes with low-carb, ND, keto etc as those methods have worked for them - I am genuinely curious about the psychology linked to this type of diet.