In What Way Does Stopping Metformin & Glixozade affect HBA1C

[henrik7]

My BS is always highest in the morning, due to dawn phenomenon I've been told. If you have changed your diet you will have to at least reduce meds, particularly gliclazide, or you would get hypos. If you've stopped meds and BS 5-7 that's great! Well done.

My BS is always highest in the morning, due to dawn phenomenon I've been told. If you have changed your diet you will have to at least reduce meds, particularly gliclazide, or you would get hypos. If you've stopped meds and BS 5-7 that's great! Well done.

Hi Jan - I have been taking meds for 10 years , so in my wisdom with the quick weight loss I thought I would reduce the meds I did with no real effect , then 2 weeks ago I tried stopping altogether , however this morning it was 8.2 maybe it is a morning thing it was just unusual as I had ate next to nothing yesterday ?

 

[lindisfel]

The wise course bulkbiker, a T2D should not cut meds until he/she is diet controlled. I would not be properly diet controled on 100 grams of carb/ day. I suspect I shall have to cut carbs well below 20 to get out of pre diabetic range on no meds. regards Derek

If you are well controlled by diet ad exercise then you should be fine. I stopped mine after 3 weeks of upset tums and the next HbA1c was so good the nurse presumed I was still taking them. Was a bit perplexed when informed that I wasn't.. didn't fit with her "diabetes is a progressive disease and you will end up on insulin" mantra.

 

[lindisfel]

Please. Is that a sustainable diet long term? D.

Your numbers are definitely going in the right direction and unless you are spiking for elevated periods should see a significant drop in HbA1C. I have seen numerous videos and TV programmes such as The Doctor who gave up drugs, The Retreat, Simply Raw Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days (

) where in a few weeks diabetes drug dependency is either completely removed of severely reduced, when calories have been restricted. The below screenshot showed remarkable reductions in insulin requirements after just 16 days on a plant based diet (

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I have the blood sugar diet (as a reference - haven't tried it) so reckon you are onto a good thing. As mentioned in an earlier post you should watch the after diet lifestyle.

 

[Mbaker]

Please. Is that a sustainable diet long term? D.

As I understand it, the diets that limit calories to circa 800 a day are sustainable up to around 8 weeks (perhaps a little longer if exercise is not included), and are designed to drain the visceral fat from within (this is the danger fat that causes insulin resistance), particularly around the liver and pancreas. As the diets are low in starch and sugar our body does not need to produce as much insulin, and or if we are taking medication usually we can talk to our health professional to get the dose reduced or removed.
A bit of waffle but from my perspective I would say the most sustainable is low carb high fat (LCHF). The great thing about LCHF is that it becomes a normal part of your life, and is so flexible. I break the code a little and have low fat yogurt (without the added sugar), but have nuts and avocado, olive oil and a little cheese as my main fats. @bulkbiker has gone all in, and is on a "strict" LCHF, around 20 grams of carbs a day, which means his body is adapted to burning fat consistently (ketosis). I am on circa 80 to 100, but train 2 or 3 times a day, as I enjoy, yes enjoy the training burn. What I love about LCHF, is that you can fit it around how you choose to manage diabetes. Don't like fish, no problem replace with some other protein, don't like broccoli then have leeks, mushrooms or spinach etc. Real food, no requirements for shakes. What I still struggle to believe is how full I feel, whilst still loosing weight and having the strength for my workouts. Although type 2 is no jog in the park, thank goodness for LCHF, I can go on holiday without pills, and just have to be picky when eating out. For me LCHF is sustainable and I am sticking to it for life.

 

[Concordjan]

I have been on lchf diet for over 4 months now, have reduced meds. Normally have about 50g carbs a day but still need 2x gliclazide and 2x metformin to keep bs level lowish (last Hba1c 42). Have a fit bit and do min of 10,000 steps a day, normally quite a bit more and yoga and aqua aerobics once a week. Would love to be med free but don't think I could ever stick to <20g carbs a day, nor 2-3 workouts! Bit old for all that.

 

[Mbaker]

I have been on lchf diet for over 4 months now, have reduced meds. Normally have about 50g carbs a day but still need 2x gliclazide and 2x metformin to keep bs level lowish (last Hba1c 42). Have a fit bit and do min of 10,000 steps a day, normally quite a bit more and yoga and aqua aerobics once a week. Would love to be med free but don't think I could ever stick to <20g carbs a day, nor 2-3 workouts! Bit old for all that.

Your're doing great, but may I say you are 60 years young, some of the ladies in my cardio classes have 10 years plus on you, and they do what the industry terms as a "modifier" for some exercises; so for example in place of floor pushups, they do pushups against a wall standing. Some of the members of my gym, put me to shame as they do a spin class or aqua aerobics just before intensive cardio. I would make a bet with you that if you were to push healthy weights, your medication could be reduced - just a friendly challenge.