Hi Gang
I am horrified to discover through reading these threads on Diabetes UK that using insulin can make me gain weight.. I am horrified I am already obese and have been cutting down and exercising and have been gaining weight I mentioned this to my 'Health care professional' who said it must be my portion size, nothing about using insulin will do this, I am considering going back on Gliclazide. what do you think? I am not a happy bunny, also I am considering surgery!
For the record, there's nothing definitive to support that this is true. Excessive protein is only proven to be harmful to already damaged kidneys. There's nothing to suggest it can cause damage to healthy kidneys.Hi Woody, if you have T2D, without carbs your body will need sufficient good fats to burn. Unless your a body builder you need to keep your protein down to c.1gm /kg of body weight / day else you could eventually have kidney problems.
It all depends which guru you listen to, Torq!@helensaramay explained the situation very well. I agree 100%. Insulin does not directly cause weight gain.
For the record, there's nothing definitive to support that this is true. Excessive protein is only proven to be harmful to already damaged kidneys. There's nothing to suggest it can cause damage to healthy kidneys.
Exactly. Well put.Insulin is labelled the fat producing hormone - most type twos have too much insulin either naturally or to try to bring blood glucose down with insulin resistance fighting it, so it makes weightloss very difficult.
I am considering going back on Gliclazide. what do you think? I am not a happy bunny, also I am considering surgery!
Instead, we were prescribing insulin to patients. Instinctively, most patients knew what we were doing was wrong. They would say to me “Doctor, you have always told me that weight loss was critical in the treatment of T2D, yet you have prescribed me insulin which has made me gain weight. How is that good?” I never had a good answer for this. Now I knew why. It was not good.
I'm on TIER3 for bariatric surgery but for me I've agreed due to immobility not so much for insulin injections to be reduced or eliminated.Hi Gang
I am horrified to discover through reading these threads on Diabetes UK that using insulin can make me gain weight.. I am horrified I am already obese and have been cutting down and exercising and have been gaining weight I mentioned this to my 'Health care professional' who said it must be my portion size, nothing about using insulin will do this, I am considering going back on Gliclazide. what do you think? I am not a happy bunny, also I am considering surgery!
Says who? Go tell that to someone with Type 1, someone with above average muscle mass, or most scientists/doctors. They'll laugh at you. Many of us with T1D almost died prior to our diagnosis due to a lack of the "Fat producing hormone."Insulin is labelled the fat producing hormone - most type twos have too much insulin either naturally or to try to bring blood glucose down with insulin resistance fighting it, so it makes weightloss very difficult.
Food is not a fat producing substance - in the absence of insulin glucose is not converted to fat, nor glycogen, therefor it is not equivalent to my statement on the nature of insulin.
Don't let it concern you Resurgam we have found a method of cutting insulin that causes us to lose weight. We have a very different illness to Torq and he cannot see our point of view because lack of insulin is a very serious illness for T1's. The context of this discussion is not T1 and most of here appreciate the difference. I produce plenty of insulin the only trouble is it arrives late and causes me to hypo after going hyper, the way to effectively stop it is to stop eating refined carbohydrates. D.They can laugh all they want - the description of the many functions of insulin are simple facts - but it seems that whenever the facts are presented there is a whole slew of people more than willing to poo-poo them - Banting and Atkins have helped many thousands control their weight, publishing their advice in the face of ridicule and total opposition and my health care professionals continue to trot out the same old mantra about carbs being essential for life.
I am perfectly aware that insulin really is essential for life, as too little is far worse than too much, and without insulin people die - looking at something like Wikipedia will provide a lot of information about phosphorylation and neutral triglyceride formation from fatty acids if you want to get the full facts as now known.
Food is not a fat producing substance - in the absence of insulin glucose is not converted to fat, nor glycogen, therefor it is not equivalent to my statement on the nature of insulin.
See that's the mistake you are making: this is not an issue of point of view or opinion. This is a discussion about the basic science of how insulin works inside our bodies.Don't let it concern you Resurgam we have found a method of cutting insulin that causes us to lose weight. We have a very different illness to Torq and he cannot see our point of view because lack of insulin is a very serious illness for T1's. The context of this discussion is not T1 and most of here appreciate the difference. I produce plenty of insulin the only trouble is it arrives late and causes me to hypo after going hyper, the way to effectively stop it is to stop eating refined carbohydrates. D.
Once again, you're making the mistake of assuming this is about treatment options. This is a basic discussion about insulin.I'm not really concerned - I find the whole argument of how diabetes ought to be treated quite interesting as there are so many facets to the errors which have built up even as the metabolic pathways have been uncovered.
I did take a wicked satisfaction in seeing the looks of total bewilderment on the faces of the team at the third diabetes education session, when they saw the results of my second blood test. I felt vindicated in my resistance to their advice, as it confirmed my belief that I had understood the problem.
That I was going hypoglycaemic over 40 years ago and it was never picked up is a regret - but at least I was able to do low carb and stay well for many years, even through pregnancy, and the future seems bright.
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