Mine has not been ultra low carb. Just reduced carb. It worked for me. By that I mean up to 100 /130 grams per day. That might not constitute “different”? But it is significantly different from keto.Hello,
I’m curious to know if anyone has decided to follow a different diet from the low/reduced carb one, and whether it has had a beneficial effect on pre-diabetes or T2 diabetes. Just intrigued really!
Yes.Thank you @Listlad , are you quite selective about the type of carbs that you do eat?
Yes.
No junk food. No sweets. No chocolate. No cakes. No fruit juices. No dried fruit.
No pasta, potatoes, cereals, rice whether it be white or brown. Just a maximum of 2 x slices of low carb bread a day.
I have an apple or two or maybe an orange each day. But the rest is in residual amounts in things like berries nuts, Greek yogurt etc.
As some will tell you, I don’t test. But I watch the carb content including info on the backs of packets quite closely. I really enjoyed porridge but have stopped it.
I try as best I can to minimise the time and disruption that I spend and incur, on the form of low carb diet that I eat. I don’t carb count I just do a rough reckoner as I go.
For various reasons it suits me and is a good compromise between what I used to eat and keto.
I think exercise helps. Certainly. I am not suggesting that it alone is a solution but it adds some pep to the quest.One gentleman here takes in 3:2 ratio of carbs to protein and does very well.He is also very serious with strenuous exercise and his sugars are excellent.
If you trace back through the Low Carb Forum you will see some of my daily food intakes. Portion size is significant. But I believe my size is too. If I eat a portion of Greek yogurt it is a big dollop. I have a full 200ml glass of full fat milk. I eat an apple or orange a day. Then there are the berries - I eat a lot of those. A couple of slices of low carb bread. Some good handfuls of walnuts or peanuts. Maybe a small bar of 85% chocolate, it all tots up. Etc etc etc. But I never count. If I am a little conservative on the numbers, maybe that is a good thing.As you don't eat all those carbs you mention in your post, where do your 100g to 130g carbs a day come from?
What did you eat yesterday, for example?
I am also of the opinion Jim, that it can depend on how early one is diagnosed and appropriate action taken. For some, the way back might need a more onerous diet regime.To complicate matters further, some people with extreme insulin resistance also find that they have to meter protein ingestion. It’s not necessarily all about carbohydrate. I know in my early days of bewilderment, it turned out that excessive protein was the silent assassin. This is often exasperated because those embarking on low carbohydrate eating often offset the missing fuel with a level of protein incompatible with their insulin sensitivity.
I am also of the opinion Jim, that it can depend on how early one is diagnosed and appropriate action taken. For some, the way back might need a more onerous diet regime.
How do you know this?Indeed, and often this is directly correlated to the level of insulin resistance. Assuming a persistent dietary path over the course of several years, which I imagine is fairly commonplace, the longer the patient goes undiagnosed, the greater their resistance becomes and the harder it is to reverse. Insulin resistance takes decades or even an entire lifetime to develop, and anyone thinking they can reverse serious cases with half-measures in anything less than the same amount of time is going to be disappointed.
I am not going to disagree with that, Jim. It just goes to show how difficult it can be to arrive at the right solution for any one individual.Indeed, and often this is directly correlated to the level of insulin resistance. Assuming a persistent dietary path over the course of several years, which I imagine is fairly commonplace, the longer the patient goes undiagnosed, the greater their resistance becomes and the harder it is to reverse. Insulin resistance takes decades or even an entire lifetime to develop, and anyone thinking they can reverse serious cases with half-measures in anything less than the same amount of time is going to be disappointed.
To complicate matters further, some people with extreme insulin resistance also find that they have to meter protein ingestion. It’s not necessarily all about carbohydrate. I know in my early days of bewilderment, it turned out that excessive protein was the silent assassin. This is often exasperated because those embarking on low carbohydrate eating often offset the missing fuel with a level of protein incompatible with their insulin sensitivity.
I absolutely agree. It is highly likely that I was undiagnosed for 20 years and when diagnosed had an hb1aC of 125 and had lost about 3 stone. Half measures don't work for me and only full on keto keeps me off the insulin injections.the longer the patient goes undiagnosed, the greater their resistance becomes and the harder it is to reverse. Insulin resistance takes decades or even an entire lifetime to develop, and anyone thinking they can reverse serious cases with half-measures in anything less than the same amount of time is going to be disappointed