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Is this type 1 or type 2

AlwaysHungry

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Hi,

I'm obese but over the past month I have lost 5kg and still losing weight and have the symptoms of drinking lots of water , urinating a lot , feeling tired.

I've got an appointment next week but was wondering what are your guys opinion have any of you had weightoss before your type 2 diagnosis?
 
You don't say how old you are (not always an accurate guide).

Just before diagnosis I dropped from 14.5 stone to 14 stone very rapidly with tiredness and thirst.
My partner shoved me through the door of Lloyds Pharmacy for a finger prick (I hadn't twigged that anything was wrong, being thick) and after the result I was straight round the GP surgery.

So your symptoms are typical of diabetes and odds are that if so you are T2 as you are obese. Not a guarantee, but statistically likely.

If the appointment is towards the end of next week, no harm in popping into a pharmacy for a quick finger prick to make sure.

@daisy1 for the forum welcome pack.
 
You don't say how old you are (not always an accurate guide).

Just before diagnosis I dropped from 14.5 stone to 14 stone very rapidly with tiredness and thirst.
My partner shoved me through the door of Lloyds Pharmacy for a finger prick (I hadn't twigged that anything was wrong, being thick) and after the result I was straight round the GP surgery.

So your symptoms are typical of diabetes and odds are that if so you are T2 as you are obese. Not a guarantee, but statistically likely.

If the appointment is towards the end of next week, no harm in popping into a pharmacy for a quick finger prick to make sure.

@daisy1 for the forum welcome pack.


I'm 21
 
Well, if you have diabetes this would make statistics say type1 becomes more likely. Especially in combination with the weight loss.
The important thing is seeing if it is diabetes, so wait for your appointment. In the mean time, should you start to feel really rotten, go to a and e.
Good luck and let us know how things proceed !
 
My uncle developed type 1 at 35 after initially being told type 2, and my grandad developed type 1 at 42, but usually type 1 is diagnosed younger in a person so just have extra caution and always look at a second opinion
 
From what I understood, you can be a T2 for ages without even being really bothered (I was for years. Figured symptoms were due to my other issues). With T1, things could suddenly go sideways really, really fast. Try to find out what your bloods are doing, as soon as possible, and if you feel bad, get to a hospital. Really. It's not something to let slide or be casual about. When in doubt, make a call. Better call for nothing than not call when it's something eh.

Wishing you all the best,
Jo
 
@AlwaysHungry

Hello AlwaysHungry and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will try to answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
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Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

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Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

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Hi. I would say you could be either or even both. The important thing is to get a meter and keep the carbs down. See how you go and what the trend is and keep in touch with the GP. Have enough fats and proteins. My bet is on T1?
 
Last week I was supposed to have my blood test on Friday but was unfortunately ill so got an appointment for next week. Currently still losing weight and also extremely thirsty/ frequent urine. Also feeling very spaced out.
 
Last week I was supposed to have my blood test on Friday but was unfortunately ill so got an appointment for next week. Currently still losing weight and also extremely thirsty/ frequent urine. Also feeling very spaced out.

Can you pop down to the pharmacy & get tested? If you're feeling that rough I'd really be inclined to do something about it.
 
Last week I was supposed to have my blood test on Friday but was unfortunately ill so got an appointment for next week. Currently still losing weight and also extremely thirsty/ frequent urine. Also feeling very spaced out.
I would certainly get hold of a meter and get the pharmacy to test you. Also buy some Ketostix to test for ketones. if you still feel bad go to A&E just in case your BS and ketones are too high thru the body burning fats as it can't burn carbs. It can be dangerous so don't ignore it or wait for the GP appointment. In the meantime greatly reduce the carbs.
 
An update. I'm diabetic. Currently in hospital. Doctors are running tests - they think I might be type 1 with the amount of weight I've lost in such a short amount of time and also considering my age. Will update later once I know the results.
 
An update. I'm diabetic. Currently in hospital. Doctors are running tests - they think I might be type 1 with the amount of weight I've lost in such a short amount of time and also considering my age. Will update later once I know the results.
Well, cr*p. I'm so, so sorry. But, you are exactly where you need to be right now. Keep us posted when/if you can and want to. Hugs!
 
Good luck and i hope you feel better soon!
 
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