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Frank357

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Hi,

My type 2 was diagnosed just before Christmas, my first clinic appointment is next week.

I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised as I am very overweight.

As a first move I have started a diet, I have decided to experiment with a low carb diet to start as I think that will be easier to stick to (I have absolutely no "sweet tooth" at all) but we will have to see.

Is there anything in particular that I should be aware of prior to my appointment? I should mention that I am seeing a nurse first, then a doctor a week later.
 
Hi,

My first appointment included a foot check - so wear clean socks. :). The nurse also weighed and measured me. Checked my Blood Pressure, Asked me about Diet, exercise, family history – Diabetes, heart attacks etc., Alcohol consumption, smoking – the usual health queries.

I was also told I needed to go on the X Pert course so it may be worth asking about this or something similar as I found it very beneficial.

She will also book you in for an eye check (or she should). You should have at least 2 checks a year, more in some places or if you ask.

I am also trying Low carb - I don’t know what effect it has had on my Diabetes yet as my next blood test is in a few weeks but I do feel better and I have lost some weight.

I am relatively new to this as well so I am sure other members will probably be able to add to this.

Good luck and ask/tell the nurse/doctor about anything that is on your mind.
 
Hi Frank! Welcome to the best corner of the internet for Type 2s! Well done on discovering low carbs!
I was diagnosed last May. I have only ever seen my GP but here’s how things will most likely go. The nurse should put you on the diabetic register. This will mean you’ll get yearly scans of the back of your eyes (your retinas) to check they are healthy, you’ll get yearly checks of your feet to check your circulation and nerves. You won’t have to pay for regular sight tests either now. She may give you dietary advice which will probably be along the lines of the “eatwell plate”, maybe good advice for Jo public but not us type 2s, too many carbs! Your health care providers are unlikely to advocate self testing but many of us do to track our progress and what foods we can tolerate.
The Dr may prescribe medication. If he/she does ask them for a prescription fee exemption application form, diabetics get free prescriptions for all meds. not just diabetic ones.
If you have further questions fire away! This forum has helped me lose nearly 5 stone and got my blood sugars back to normal levels.
 
Hi and welcome,

A diagnosis just before Christmas is a bit of a bummer, but now the festivities are over you can sort out your eating plans, and trying a low carb diet is an excellent plan. I never had a sweet tooth either so giving up sugary stuff was no problem for me, but reducing the amount of savoury carbohydrate was a bit more difficult!

My main piece of advice is buy a blood glucose meter. This will help you formulate a diet that is suitable for you and your body. In my opinion they are essential tools if we are to get control and maintain that control. Without one you are working blind as far as your body's reaction to food is concerned. With one you can see at a glance what each meal you eat has done to your blood glucose levels and learn which foods you can tolerate and which you can't.

Another bit of advice, and also very important, is to ask your nurse for a print out of the blood test results. They should include your HbA1c, cholesterol, lipids, liver and kidney functions. All these are important for us, and we need to keep an eye on them all, looking for trends upwards and downwards. We cannot rely on doctors to do this - we are responsible for our own health.
(If you live in England you can also ask if your surgery puts test results on line, and how to register for this. All surgeries in England were asked to do this before May 2016 although some haven't)

In case you haven't seen it already, I am tagging @daisy1 as she has an excellent post for all newly diagnosed. Please read it carefully when it arrives, and have a good read round all the forums. Ask as many questions as you like.
 
@Bluetit1802 @Rachox

Although your advice was not aimed at me I would like to say "Thanks both".

I didn't realise I could view my results online. I have been ringing up or booking an appt. I'll certainly follow that up.

Although I am not on meds for Diabetes I am for Blood pressure so I am going to look into whether these meds will be free now.

Always something new to learn - even on a Friday afternoon!
 
@Bluetit1802 @Rachox

Although your advice was not aimed at me I would like to say "Thanks both".

I didn't realise I could view my results online. I have been ringing up or booking an appt. I'll certainly follow that up.

Although I am not on meds for Diabetes I am for Blood pressure so I am going to look into whether these meds will be free now.

Always something new to learn - even on a Friday afternoon!
Hi ixi, I think unfortunately for you that free prescriptions are only available for diabetics on diabetes medication. Worth double checking though.
 
@Rachox

You're right - oh well I was paying for them before so no change.
I’m on several other medications and before my diabetes diagnosis I used to buy a prepayment certificate for around £10/month, would this be an alternative for you?
 
I’m on several other medications and before my diabetes diagnosis I used to buy a prepayment certificate for around £10/month, would this be an alternative for you?

I have one of those as it saves me some money. Thanks for th tip though.
 
Nothing much to add, but don’t expect the medics to be positive if you talk about “low carb high fat”, but if you tell them you are avoiding all sugar and ready meals and cutting back on rice, bread and pasta while eating "real food" they will like it.

I found that the key to controlling my BG was getting my breakfast right. What are you having for breakfast these days?

I just posted this on another thread, that may help you
 
Hi and welcome. Have you had any blood tests yet? Normally you have bloods taken 1 to 2 weeks before an appointment so you can discuss the results with the DN/GP. Discuss this with reception if needed. Having online access to the results can help a lot so do sign-up in the surgery if you haven't yet.
 
Nothing much to add, but don’t expect the medics to be positive if you talk about “low carb high fat”, but if you tell them you are avoiding all sugar and ready meals and cutting back on rice, bread and pasta while eating "real food" they will like it.

I found that the key to controlling my BG was getting my breakfast right. What are you having for breakfast these days?

I just posted this on another thread, that may help you
“Courgetti Western”! Love it! :joyful:
 
@Frank357

Hello Frank and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and informative. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Thanks everybody for the kind welcome and the advice so far.


Responding to some of the points:-


I am over 60 (64 on Christmas eve) so I get my prescriptions free.

Just starting on the diet, so far I have been having omelettes for breakfast (with mushrooms, tomatoes, whatever is handy).

I will be back for blood monitor advice - there seems to be a confusing choice on the market. For now though I am assuming that if I’m losing weight then I’m going in the right direction. I have plenty to loose!

I don’t think my surgery has much of an on-line presence judging by their website but asking for printouts of my blood results is a good idea.

I don't think I should be too specific about the exact nature of the diet when speaking to the nurse - at least wait till I see the lay of the land in that area.


Bye for now, I’m off to wash my socks!

Frank.
 
Im sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I’m also new to diabetes, the hospital wrote me a script for a blood glucose test meter.

I find it’s a really good tool to relieve my mind, I can test and know if my blood sugar is ok or not ok.

There are many online sites that offer a free meter, I think their ads on this site as well. You may have to buy the lancets or the strips out of pocket, but it’s well worth relieving your worry.

I worry all the time about it, and I can’t imagine not being able to check. Since I’ve been checking about 85 percent of my blood glucose test are within limit. Thankfully.

I worked with my pharmacist, and he helped me to evaluate if I needed to take the Metformin they prescribe for me. He said that I didn’t. When the nurse from the diabetes clinic called me for the appointment we talked about it and she said that my BG values were pretty good and for me not to take the Metformin.

Try to get yourself a meter, it takes the guesswork out of your meal plan and relives the worry and anxiety that comes from not knowing.
 
Im sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I’m also new to diabetes, the hospital wrote me a script for a blood glucose test meter.

I find it’s a really good tool to relieve my mind, I can test and know if my blood sugar is ok or not ok.

There are many online sites that offer a free meter, I think their ads on this site as well. You may have to buy the lancets or the strips out of pocket, but it’s well worth relieving your worry.

I worry all the time about it, and I can’t imagine not being able to check. Since I’ve been checking about 85 percent of my blood glucose test are within limit. Thankfully.

I worked with my pharmacist, and he helped me to evaluate if I needed to take the Metformin they prescribe for me. He said that I didn’t. When the nurse from the diabetes clinic called me for the appointment we talked about it and she said that my BG values were pretty good and for me not to take the Metformin.

Try to get yourself a meter, it takes the guesswork out of your meal plan and relives the worry and anxiety that comes from not knowing.
 
Thanks very much for replying and for the advice.

My first clinic since diagnosis is tomorrow so I should have a better handle on it all after that.

I started a low carb diet on the 1st of this month and as part of the diet, stopped drinking alcohol. So far, I have lost 13lb and although I cannot expect to continue at that rate, I am encouraged. At the moment I am not particularly worried about my blood sugar while I'm loosing weight but I am probably being a bit naive about that (the NHS may put me right there!).

Price is less an issue than confusion about which meter to get, not surprisingly there seem to be very few comparative reviews which are comprehensible to a beginner, out there. Even on this site's shop section.
 
All meters you can get in the UK are "good enough", as they have to keep to an ISO standard. Apart from issues with the size of the meter, display size if poor eyesight etc, the only considering for most people with Type2 is the cost of the test strips. They make all the money from selling the test strips, hence you can often get a meter for free.
 
All meters you can get in the UK are "good enough", as they have to keep to an ISO standard. Apart from issues with the size of the meter, display size if poor eyesight etc, the only considering for most people with Type2 is the cost of the test strips. They make all the money from selling the test strips, hence you can often get a meter for free.
 
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