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Just diagnosed with T2

Tony 1711

Well-Known Member
Messages
505
Location
Cornwall
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi all, as the title says, I have just been diagnosed with T2, with a hba1c count of 78. I was dissapointed to hear from the diabetes nurse that they do not recommend BG testing as I am diet and lifestyle control and will have to rely on the 3 monthly testing.
Well I intend to ignore that advise and purchase a test meter to ensure I keep my blood sugar levels in check.
 
Hi all, as the title says, I have just been diagnosed with T2, with a hba1c count of 78. I was dissapointed to hear from the diabetes nurse that they do not recommend BG testing as I am diet and lifestyle control and will have to rely on the 3 monthly testing.
Well I intend to ignore that advise and purchase a test meter to ensure I keep my blood sugar levels in check.

Hi Tony and wel come to the Forum!
Brilliant decision. I self fund my blood sugar monitoring, I’d hate to be working blind.
I’ll just tag in @daisy1 who’ll post loads of info for newbies in case you haven’t seen it.
 
Hi, welcome to the forum. I would feel lost without the testing meter which helps to find which foods to avoid. Have you been prescribed any medication e.g Metformin the first line of control?
 
No the nurse said that they would test again in 3 months and if I had not got my hda1c level under control then they would put me on Metformin, but I am hoping to get my levels sorted with diet and exercise and not have to take medication.
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. Feel free to ask any questions you may have, there is a wealth of information to be had here.
 
Hi Tony,
Welcome to you. I don't know where you live but here in Aussie the latest protocol for T2 is diet and 3 monthly a1c tests. I asked my GP about this and he said it was because the BG level is highly dependant on when you take it. My diabetes nurse at our local hospital said that it was difficult to educate people on when to take readings and what they mean. For me, as an engineer for nearly 40 years had no trouble handling numbers so I thought quietly it sounded more likely they were just under resourced and couldn't devote the time on an individual basis to properly educate their patients.

The dietician just gave me a poster with different food groups displayed and a chart of what I should pick for each meal and to lose weight. Not a lot of information. Move forward and I was starting to develop slight neuropathy in my toes and less so in my hands. My a1c at follow ups had been OK so I pressed my GP on what the effects would by on BG going high but for a short time as this would still show normal a1c. He admitted that it might be a problem.

I immediately insisted that he sign the form so that I could get a meter and start self testing. He was happy to do this. Once I got the meter I did in fact notice that certain foods spiked the bejeesus out my BGs for a short while. I've since taken rigorous control of BG by myself and it is much better now.

If I was that diabetic nurse I wouldn't bother with the rubbish explanations and hope and pray that dieticians alone can fix things based only a1c. Instead I would simply pass the patient a slip of paper with a link to this web site on it.
 
Hi all, as the title says, I have just been diagnosed with T2, with a hba1c count of 78. I was dissapointed to hear from the diabetes nurse that they do not recommend BG testing as I am diet and lifestyle control and will have to rely on the 3 monthly testing.
Well I intend to ignore that advise and purchase a test meter to ensure I keep my blood sugar levels in check.
Hi and welcome. I'm type 1 so have to test and I think your decision to buy a meter is spot on. Don't forget to keep a log of the numbers
 
I've spent about £300 on testing supplies since September, it's an investment that gives me piece of mind while Improving my health. Can't afford not to test
 
Hi all, thanks for all your replies.

Crocodile I too am an engineer, first in the Royal Navy for 27 years, and now 17 years working offshore for the oil and gas companie. Sadly I too think it is down to resources that they do not want to give out meters in my area.

rmz80 I live in Cornwall lol.
 
@Tony1711

Hello Tony and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

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