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Paulinea

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We found out last Thursday that my husband has type 2,we have been trying very hard with his diet cutting carbs sweetener
for a few weeks now there was a delay in letting us know the results.Any way I was wondering how long would it be before we might see a difference in his BL,I am waiting for a meter to come so haven't done any testing yet.

Today he has had,4 slices of Burgen Bread with roast beef on and pickles,1 pear, low sugar jelly,porridge this morning made with water and sweetener,and broccoli sprouts 3 small boiled potatoes and cod in butter sauce for tea,dose that sound to much or am I going in the right direction for him, would appreciate any advice.
 
Welcome to the forum, although sorry you're here I guess !
Firstly, the good news ( if you can call it that ) is that your husband has at least been diagnosed. I bet he's felt a bit off for a while ! Is he on any meds yet or are you trying to control with diet & exercise ?
Good that you're watching his sugar intake but be very wary of the carbs as these are what increase blood glucose levels the most. You'll be surprised how many hidden carbs and sugars are in food you previously considered " healthy "
You will start to see a gradual improvement now but may take a few days.
try to read as much as you can here. Any questions, please ask.
Hope things work out for you both and keep us posted with updates etc.
Good luck ;-)
 
Hi, Welcome :)

this is a huge question, I'd say read as much as you can as there are so many different opinions on what we should and shouldn't eat, I'm thinking that your heading in the right direction because your willing to change and you found us hehe, once you get your meter you can try things out, testing before and after foods to see what makes his bg go up or down, this may or may not be easy at first, I am 3 months in and only the last fees days have my bg been stable enough for me to start testing, by that I mean my bg readings have been jumping around all over the place, my approach to it after reading all the time has been to avoid carbohydrates where ever possible, I for example haven't had a potatoe since diag, or rice or pasta, I have 2 slices of burgen bread with my lunch at work most days, but there's so much to this you have to research it on this forum, then decide what you want to try, there are folks on amazingly low carb intakes like 30g a day, I manage between 50-100g it's hard at first to understand how it's possible but all will become clear, it's terrific that you are on board this will make it a lot better for him, Things like changing from weetabix to yogurt and fruit for brekkie have helped me loads, I've lost over. 2 stone and Bp has gone from 250/125 to 110/70 bg has gone from 24.9 to 3.5 - 6 mostly (lately) but it takes a lot of bad days mixed with good days to make progress.....anyway I'll stop rambling and say very much good luck to you guys and please ask questions, and read read read :)
 
Hi, it sounds like your going in the right direction but Iagree with Mo1905 you really have to watch the carbohydrates. I am type 1 so I really have to watch my carbs do I know how much insulin to take. A book that I have found very helpful is carbs and cals, it breaks down meals to tell you how much is in each and shows you on a plate so you are aware of the size but also gives you the weight. You can also get this as an app. Hope all goes well and you start seeing results soon.

Lucy
 
Hi Pauline and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members which I hope you will find useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will come along and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hello I am a new t2 also....but have been unwell for a few years with really awful symptoms....but t2 did come as a shock....
I am just trying my best at the moment it's such early days...I did panic so much when I first found out...does reality ever sink in......you are doing really well I wish both your husband and yourself lots of positive thoughts and hugs....:)
 
Oooh I was really pleased to see your reply's and welcome's to the forum, yes I think I need to look at the carbs more, Mike is a lorry driver which makes his day's unpredictable some long day's so I was saying to him we need a back up pack in case he is stuck.
He is on Metformin and has started to take 2 from today the first week was 1 so hoping he's alright and not suffer with side affects
He had a spinal AVM 7 years ago which left nerve damage in his leg's and feet,but he used to exercise on his bike he went on and passed all his test's to drive again,so he has started 10 mins every night on the bike hoping to build that up.
As you all say I will keep reading and try with the food may cut the 4 slices of bread to 2 will have to think harder for his breakfast
has he leaves the house at 6 so it has to be some quick thank's again for the welcome. :)
 
Diet so far sounds ok with nothing really to worry about. Porridge can be a bit funny with some people. When you get your meter, you can start to test. Brown rice and wholegrain pasta works well for me and extends my culinary range. Also things like barley in soups and stews. Once you get into it, there is a lot of variety. People on the forum seem to be into eggs and omlettes at the moment. I do a flavoured brown rice, with lemongrass, lime leaves and done in a chicken stock, with a smoky egg food yung. That has some toasted sesame seed oil to really perk it up. But, porcini mushrooms, finely chopped chilli etc will flavour any omlette.

It takes a few weeks to get the BG down, in part as your body adjusts and in part as you discover what you can and cannot eat. Exercise and losing weight also help noticably. Expect some readings to inexplicably go up too. Everyone notices this. Just as long as the general trend is down.
 
Hi Yorksman,I have read your post's and they are really helpful,it would be so much easier for me if Mike was into spices but a garlic piece of bread is foreign to Mike lol,he has always been a plain eater Sunday roast ect, But saying that he is working with me and the changes, I was just speaking with my eldest daughter who did have gestational diabetes but has just had her 1 year glucose test and is all clear now.
Also my brother has type 1 brought on by pancreatis ( he wasn't a drinker I know every one say's that but it's true )well it's 12 -45
and I haven't made a bed yet, because food is all I am thinking about :crazy: so will press on now thank's again for the advice we need all the help and advice we can get thank's to every one who has replied :)
 
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