Just unable to cope anymore

Maggie75

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I'm T2, currently taking Alogliptin only, was taking Metformin but had seen post about this possibly causing depression or worsening it so I stopped taking it.
My depression is now so bad I can barely function, there are vermin back in the walls of this house for the second time in 2 years, been told it's because neighbours are keeping pigeons in their garden, feeding squirrels and foxes and we have to suffer for this. I am in a constant state of terror and severe anxiety to the point I simply do not want to be here anymore, I pray every night not to wake up in the morning.
I had been trying to maintain a low carb diet, now I just don't care, what is the point? I can see no hope with this, DN told me at last appt I'm going to have a heart attack, if she only knew I was thinking as long as it's fast and fatal. Sorry for the utterly depressing post but this is how I feel now.

Maggie
 

lovinglife

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Sorry to hear you are in such a low way @Maggie75

Are you on any medication for your depression and anxiety? It may be worth speaking to your GP to see if they can prescribe something to help or if your already on meds a change in your prescription?

Sorry your DSN was so blunt, they sometimes don’t realise how deep & wounding words can be. You say you’re trying to maintain your low carb diet but are struggling, do you test your BG? High BG can also contribute to not feeling your best.

Have you spoken to the council about your neighbours? They may be able to help.

This is a safe place for you to talk, you’re not alone
 

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@Maggie75 please seek some help for your depression, maybe refer yourself to counselling via the NHS, it’s called Talking Space where I live, I’m sure a bit of Googling will find something in your area. It can be a long wait so maybe consider ringing the Samaritans to speak to someone more immediately:
 

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Thank you for your replies, I'm already on high dose antidepressants (tranquilizers really) and anti anxiety medication.
I have contacted the samaritans earlier today to speak to someone as I was feeling so low it was frightening. I'm starting private counselling next week as NHS cannot provide it and CPN's they sent me to last year were horrendous to me, just can't go through that again.
In regards to my blood sugar I have been trying and actually had some decent blood results but at this point I just can't do it anymore. There's no light at the end of the tunnel for me right now, I'm trying so hard to keep going but I just don't want to.

Maggie
 

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Thank you for your replies, I'm already on high dose antidepressants (tranquilizers really) and anti anxiety medication.
I have contacted the samaritans earlier today to speak to someone as I was feeling so low it was frightening. I'm starting private counselling next week as NHS cannot provide it and CPN's they sent me to last year were horrendous to me, just can't go through that again.
In regards to my blood sugar I have been trying and actually had some decent blood results but at this point I just can't do it anymore. There's no light at the end of the tunnel for me right now, I'm trying so hard to keep going but I just don't want to.

Maggie
Glad to hear you’ve talked to someone today and you have plans for counselling.

You say you don’t want to keep going and it may feel like that but just by posting here and being proactive in finding help means you do have some fight & spirit left. Keep posting and talking. Below are some contact numbers for you, they are only office hours but that may be able to help with something. And if you feel worse or need to talk to someone again don’t feel you can’t contact the Samaritans again

Help when struggling

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/how_we_help/helpline

England, Wales and Northern Ireland

Call: 0345 123 2399*, Monday to Friday, 9am to 6pm

Email: [email protected]

Scotland

Call: 0141 212 8710*, Monday to Friday, 9am to 6pm.

Email: [email protected]

There is also the samaritans on 116 123 .
 

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as NHS cannot provide it and CPN's they sent me to last year were horrendous to me, just can't go through that again.
I'm so sorry it went like this. It's a bit of the luck of the draw, but if you meet the wrong person just not fitting to who you are, 'help' can work gainst your mental health.
Thank you for your replies, I'm already on high dose antidepressants (tranquilizers really) and anti anxiety medication.
I have contacted the samaritans earlier today to speak to someone as I was feeling so low it was frightening. I'm starting private counselling next week as NHS cannot provide it and CPN's they sent me to last year were horrendous to me, just can't go through that again.
In regards to my blood sugar I have been trying and actually had some decent blood results but at this point I just can't do it anymore. There's no light at the end of the tunnel for me right now, I'm trying so hard to keep going but I just don't want to.

Maggie
At what point can the traquilizers be of help?
If you need them to have a break, use them.

I've had long, borderline (and sometimes very close to) suicidal periods of depression. What worked for me was postponing. Not even for a specific reason,but sitting it out for another week or day was much more doable than having to look at the longer future.
After years I came out on the other end, I'm still not sure why or how, and I'm still working on getting used to it after a year and a half.
But I very much wish the same to you!
 
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Maggie75

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Thank you all again for your replies and support, it means a lot. I'm still the same today, the noises behind the walls are terrifying, my body is in a constant state of high alert, it is awful. I have tried telling myself this is not forever, there are steps taken to get rid of this vermin but that is cold comfort at this moment.
Got out of the house for an hour today for a pre arranged kidney scan at hospital, telephone appt with urologist on Wednesday to discuss further, I've had severe stomach and groin pain since January, very bad today along with my back. It's just a terrible time, really trying to take one day at a time.

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Thank you all again for your replies and support, it means a lot. I'm still the same today, the noises behind the walls are terrifying, my body is in a constant state of high alert, it is awful. I have tried telling myself this is not forever, there are steps taken to get rid of this vermin but that is cold comfort at this moment.
Got out of the house for an hour today for a pre arranged kidney scan at hospital, telephone appt with urologist on Wednesday to discuss further, I've had severe stomach and groin pain since January, very bad today along with my back. It's just a terrible time, really trying to take one day at a time.

Maggie
Thanks for letting us know how you’re doing, taking one day at time is sometimes the best we can do, even 1 minute at time is one minute nearer getting things sorted. Things do change. Keep posting if it helps and try and concentrate on the things that you have in place such as your counselling appointment etc. your’e doing well, things will get better. Do you have any support from friends & family?
 

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I'm T2, currently taking Alogliptin only, was taking Metformin but had seen post about this possibly causing depression or worsening it so I stopped taking it.
My depression is now so bad I can barely function, there are vermin back in the walls of this house for the second time in 2 years, been told it's because neighbours are keeping pigeons in their garden, feeding squirrels and foxes and we have to suffer for this. I am in a constant state of terror and severe anxiety to the point I simply do not want to be here anymore, I pray every night not to wake up in the morning.
I had been trying to maintain a low carb diet, now I just don't care, what is the point? I can see no hope with this, DN told me at last appt I'm going to have a heart attack, if she only knew I was thinking as long as it's fast and fatal. Sorry for the utterly depressing post but this is how I feel now.

Maggie
We just had to deal with rats - we poisoned them ourselves, but there are numerous businesses which will do the job for you.
It probably feels far more dreadful than it is - if they are not in the house, just in the cavity then there is no danger of contaminated food.
We found a broken drainpipe and fixed it so that no more of them could get in

I do wish doctors and nurses would not spout such things - so much total nonsense. If anyone could actually predict that a person might have a heart attack it would be a boon to medical science. Unfortunately - no one can.
You might be able to report your neighbour to the council as a nuisance, and maybe get help with the vermin from them - they used to come out to put down poison many years ago when the old housing in Southsea was being knocked down and there were hoards of rats coming from them.


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I'm T2, currently taking Alogliptin only, was taking Metformin but had seen post about this possibly causing depression or worsening it so I stopped taking it.
My depression is now so bad I can barely function, there are vermin back in the walls of this house for the second time in 2 years, been told it's because neighbours are keeping pigeons in their garden, feeding squirrels and foxes and we have to suffer for this. I am in a constant state of terror and severe anxiety to the point I simply do not want to be here anymore, I pray every night not to wake up in the morning.
I had been trying to maintain a low carb diet, now I just don't care, what is the point? I can see no hope with this, DN told me at last appt I'm going to have a heart attack, if she only knew I was thinking as long as it's fast and fatal. Sorry for the utterly depressing post but this is how I feel now.

Maggie

Greetings @Maggie75 . You are not alone - absoutely. On both the Low-carbing doldrums and the diabetes doldrums.

In my own country (Aotearoa/New Zealand) they did a survey of folks with type two, and came up with the chilling stat that 80% of people with type two suffer from periods of depression, to do with all the rigmaroles of having a chronic disease with a high level of personal involvement involving constant day in day out engagement with your BGs and of course - your food and drink, not to mention meds and movement. It's referred to as 'diabetes distress', just to reinforce the fact you are not alone for sure!

Ditto on metformin having a depressive effect for some people. All part of T2D being a metabolic disease, a systemic disease. And sadly, why emotions and emotional responses can affect our blood glucose - already well dysregulated, to being even more dysregulated. What a bu**er! This has abnsolutely been part of my own, cutely (??!!) named 'diabetes journey'.

I just thought I would share my own responses to the hyper-attention to food and drink, the BGs and the diabetes doldurms.

For my own inspiration on the food and drink front - I have 2-3 time outs a year, where I have celebratory treats. This year I had my elderly mother at mine for Easter, so I indulged in chocolate easter eggs, and a store bought hot cross bun for brekkie as my mother loves them. (Gosh - so do I! My homemade LC/keto hot cross buns are not at all what the wheatie soft ones are!) I need these treat days (Easter is some years yes, some years no), on my birthday and Xmas Day, and sometimes environs. But yeah I do pay with having to work extra hard on low carbing and monitoring my waist and BG afterwards.

To get back into Low-carbing (LCing), I remind myself how really high, and really unhealthy it would be if I wasn't LCing. Boy oh boy! Would my colour on my diabetes BG chart go from the current deep orange into the fire engine red zone! Meaning - my bad condition would be even worse. And I like my eyesight and my kidney function. That's my own take on it at least.

When I recently at a diabetes clinic in a city that has one third of its population with BG regulation problems, after rollling my eyes at the pix on the wall of 1/4 plate of carbs per meal prescription, I did note the many many entreaties for those with diabetes distress to get counselling/kindness/therapy as part of their treatment. I put my name down for it, absolutely. Fingers crossed on that front!
 

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Thanks again for all the replies and advice, today is bad, I am beyond the point of both physical and mental exhaustion, been awake since 4am with noises in the walls, they are still going on now, this is torture. I am now taking it 1 hour at a time, my mind is shattered. Only heavy duty anxiety medication is keeping me remotely sane at this point. Why can't I be stronger?

Maggie
 

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Hi @Maggie75
I struggle with several chronic illnesses which has led to depression and medication so i feel your pain.
Its really hard trying to explain that feeling of despair and the desire to end that feeling of awfulness......

There are professional people out there who can help but its the luck of the draw but you must must must keep talking about it whether it be partner,friend,colleague,doctor,nurse you get the idea as it really does help even if you don't realise its helping.

I attended a 6 week group therapy course recently and it started with 12 people and dwindled to 6 and i got more from just talking to the 6 than i got from the course itself.

I wish you all the luck in the world

Tony
 

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Many years ago @Maggie75 I suffered a terrible bout of depression and anxiety. In my mind there was no future, just the unbearable present. I just wanted the pain of it to end. I was in such a state of anxiety, everything and anything was just too much to bear. The slightest upset or issue overwhelmed my ability to cope. I was hospitalized for mine. So I fully understand how life can feel unbearable and overwhelming. Know that you are free to talk and express how you are feeling, and know that there will be people here who have gone through it and will listen to you and they will hear you. You will not be judged for it. I would say this, if you feel so overwhelmed and feel at the end of your tether take yourself to the hospital or call one of the helplines. You are not alone. It may not seem like it right now, but there is light. You will not always feel this way. Hugs , Mel
 

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There's a free app called Insight Timer that has thousands of calming things to listen to, everything from a few minutes to hours and hours. Some with music, some without.
I highly recommend earphones and repetition as "tuning out" can take take few goes before it starts to work.
I just find some one whose voice I like (some I dont) .

Even just a few minutes will be of benefit