Just wondered.....

[Lamont D]

@nosher8355 ....this is what I thought...he is currently on Novomix 30 ....28 units in the morning and 28 units in the evening...
...the problem here is that it will be down to the diabetic nurse to make that decision with him as I am effectively stepping back and not getting involved (am not saying I don't care but he has to deal with this)...
...the issue here is that I can't see them making this connection and deciding to reduce insulin....or is it down to me to make that suggestion....am stuck in the middle of a dilemma here...personally I can only see that the insulin will lead to even more weight gain and that is only going to add to his problems....

I can't tell you what to do. But someone should suggest it, I've never had to take insulin, so I'm hoping someone will post how to correct it maybe @donnellysdogs knows about it.
Sorry I can't be more helpful!

 

[Fayefaye1429]

Hey Molly just wanted to start by saying you go girl! It sounds like your doing everything you can for him and you insulin wise it does increase weight and if his sugars are becoming more controlled that will to. Crazy eh! It's because the insulin is a fat, when sugars are high it craves insulin so goes to our fatty places and takes it from there. That is why when in diagnosed people drop weight quick. I did from90kgs to55 in under 6 months! Anyway I used a. Combination of diets when I lost weight when I gained a lot this with exercise the insulin would have to be decreased so. It's hard work and quite a balance but does get results. Do s he have a Dietain? Working with a combination of nurse maybe personal trainer who gets it and himself might be the key. If he is low in mood this might help anyway. I am not sure I have helped really but I would say if he can enquire on all different levels.

 

[Fayefaye1429]

I should have said though of course important to be controlled so organs are nice and working

 

[Molly56]

Hey Molly just wanted to start by saying you go girl! It sounds like your doing everything you can for him and you insulin wise it does increase weight and if his sugars are becoming more controlled that will to. Crazy eh! It's because the insulin is a fat, when sugars are high it craves insulin so goes to our fatty places and takes it from there. That is why when in diagnosed people drop weight quick. I did from90kgs to55 in under 6 months! Anyway I used a. Combination of diets when I lost weight when I gained a lot this with exercise the insulin would have to be decreased so. It's hard work and quite a balance but does get results. Do s he have a Dietain? Working with a combination of nurse maybe personal trainer who gets it and himself might be the key. If he is low in mood this might help anyway. I am not sure I have helped really but I would say if he can enquire on all different levels.

I should have said though of course important to be controlled so organs are nice and working

@Fayefaye1429 ..thanks for the advice...just to answer your question, no he does not have a dietitian ...and to my knowledge it has never been suggested that he should see one...
The diabetic nurse that deals with his diabetes is based at our local GP surgery...when he started on the insulin this was dealt with by an outside diabetic team but this was problematic in that it was difficult to contact them and to get the support required (or at least the system seemed to make it difficult...phone and leave message on answerphone and wait for them to call you back)....this really didn't work for him so thankfully practice nurse took him under her wing and is now main point of contact...this works well and has allowed me to take that important step back and leave him to get on with it.....saying that it does still raise lots of questions that I want to be asking.....
....such as the question about diet / change in diet / level of insulin / rate of weight gain / is insulin causing weight gain / should insulin be reduced as eating less carbs.....etc etc etc.....

I assume that the diabetic nurse is in contact with the other specialist team to decide on course of medication but have not been party to recent conversations and have not been to any recent appointments due to work and family commitments......hence I do not know what else if anything has been mentioned about diet other than he said he told her he was on diet / eating salads....I suspect that current levels of medication are based on eating a certain amount of carbs as recommended by NHS and that nurse wouldn't advocate eating less carbs....
....if it were me or I was the nurse I would be suggesting keeping a food diary to see if any links ....but it is not me...and to my knowledge this has never been suggested...

I expect that I will be reminded by someone here on the forum that this is his body, his problem and that I should be stepping back ....which I am....but that still doesn't stop me from wanting to find out more, ask questions and make suggestions ....

Have no idea what gym referral will involve or what knowledge personal trainer will have of medical condition or what is required...cannot see myself getting involved in this at all (and I don't intend to get involved) so will just have to cross my fingers (and toes) and hope that he is keen to follow whatever programme is suggested....and that the programme suggested is appropriate for his needs...

Stepping back now and going to do something else....am starting on my own health and fitness campaign to get me in shape for my holiday........

 

[Robinredbreast]

@nosher8355 ....this is what I thought...he is currently on Novomix 30 ....28 units in the morning and 28 units in the evening...
...the problem here is that it will be down to the diabetic nurse to make that decision with him as I am effectively stepping back and not getting involved (am not saying I don't care but he has to deal with this)...
...the issue here is that I can't see them making this connection and deciding to reduce insulin....or is it down to me to make that suggestion....am stuck in the middle of a dilemma here...personally I can only see that the insulin will lead to even more weight gain and that is only going to add to his problems....

Molly, honestly I think that 'diabetes' throws up many negative points for your partner. If it's not eating what he wants, staying in bed, not exercising, putting on weight well the list could could on and on. It's his life, he and I mean him alone can only make the decisions, if you say you are going to step away, it's going to have to be a huge step because, yet again you are basing it on your own emotions quote :- .am stuck in the middle of a dilemma here................. but it is NOT your dilemma. It is down to us as diabetics, type 1, 2 lada, mody, pre or gestational to get the best control as possible. No it ain't easy, it can be a hard slog at times, but as many will hopefully say, it's not the end of the world and it is manageable, it's a small part of who we are. It's similar to looking after your teeth, it's 90% the patient and 10 % the medical professional.
It doesn't mean you wont or don't care, but if he wont help himself, then mothering him is only making it worse, especially for you. You are a very talented lady, I don't know if other members know, but Molly's bag making is a fantastic venture, she is a talented and a clever person, stay there, Molly on top, don't let someone's else's selfishness bring you both down, spiralling in ever decreasing circles, I wouldn't want it to end badly for either of you.
If he asks for advice then give it to him, but tough love is the best way forward, I think you know that, but you just can't let go of that thread that is dangling down, waiting for someone to come make it all neat and tidy, can you ?............................
I have had a bad few years, seeing someone destroy their life, by drink and drugs ( but I found out a lot more things nearer to the end of his life) and so leaving our 11 year daughter without a father. But before that, I had enough of the self pitying, and the 'poor me' syndrome, we remained friends and he had a lot of contact with our daughter ( 50/50) I am so glad I walked away when I did, before I ended up in an institution or wanting to physically shake him or punch his lights out, and that's the truth. He wouldn't even have anything to do with our daughter when we split, and he had a bit of a nasty mouth, but I got him back into her life, by writing a letter, 'Dear daddy', and we went from there.

With my best wishes always Molly, RRB x

 

[Fayefaye1429]

@Fayefaye1429 ..thanks for the advice...just to answer your question, no he does not have a dietitian ...and to my knowledge it has never been suggested that he should see one...
The diabetic nurse that deals with his diabetes is based at our local GP surgery...when he started on the insulin this was dealt with by an outside diabetic team but this was problematic in that it was difficult to contact them and to get the support required (or at least the system seemed to make it difficult...phone and leave message on answerphone and wait for them to call you back)....this really didn't work for him so thankfully practice nurse took him under her wing and is now main point of contact...this works well and has allowed me to take that important step back and leave him to get on with it.....saying that it does still raise lots of questions that I want to be asking.....
....such as the question about diet / change in diet / level of insulin / rate of weight gain / is insulin causing weight gain / should insulin be reduced as eating less carbs.....etc etc etc.....

I assume that the diabetic nurse is in contact with the other specialist team to decide on course of medication but have not been party to recent conversations and have not been to any recent appointments due to work and family commitments......hence I do not know what else if anything has been mentioned about diet other than he said he told her he was on diet / eating salads....I suspect that current levels of medication are based on eating a certain amount of carbs as recommended by NHS and that nurse wouldn't advocate eating less carbs....
....if it were me or I was the nurse I would be suggesting keeping a food diary to see if any links ....but it is not me...and to my knowledge this has never been suggested...

I expect that I will be reminded by someone here on the forum that this is his body, his problem and that I should be stepping back ....which I am....but that still doesn't stop me from wanting to find out more, ask questions and make suggestions ....

Have no idea what gym referral will involve or what knowledge personal trainer will have of medical condition or what is required...cannot see myself getting involved in this at all (and I don't intend to get involved) so will just have to cross my fingers (and toes) and hope that he is keen to follow whatever programme is suggested....and that the programme suggested is appropriate for his needs...

Stepping back now and going to do something else....am starting on my own health and fitness campaign to get me in shape for my holiday........

Hey Molly you are doing awesome!! I can only say what I do. I have a ratio of insulin to carbs eaten when hot and exercising my body uses more energy so I need less insulin. If its just for you maybe find some lit on exercise I am sure you have done but all I can say is keep up you being as good as can be