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Just early and late, two meals a day. No snacks.Do you only eat early and late, or do you also eat in between?
Just early and late, two meals a day. No snacks.Do you only eat early and late, or do you also eat in between?
That must be really convenient. Since adopting low carb, I find meals take a lot more preparation and it gets in the way of living! Also, eating out of the house is much harder. Not sure I could follow your system though, as I am coming to the conclusion that fasting raises my bg.Just early and late, two meals a day. No snacks.
Me too - I need to eat early and have fewer carbs for my first meal, but I have meat or eggs - a proper meal and I am not hungry for the rest of the day. It keeps my BG from continuing to rise and then going into a sharp drop, which is unpleasant and gives the feeling of hunger. With two meals spread as far apart as is convenient my BG is fairly steady.That must be really convenient. Since adopting low carb, I find meals take a lot more preparation and it gets in the way of living! Also, eating out of the house is much harder. Not sure I could follow your system though, as I am coming to the conclusion that fasting raises my bg.
I've been going very low carb and high fat for about a week, hoping that I'd experience the phenomenon that I can eat what I want and lose weight, due to the idea that one doesn't crave fatty foods as much as carby foods, and one feels more satisfied after eating fatty foods.
My experience so far is that I've been eating an awful lot of fatty food and am gaining weight.
Things I really love and can easily eat too much of:
* Belly pork with veg e.g. green breans, broccoli, asparagus.
* Mixed nuts with blueberries / raspberries / blackberries & double cream.
* Nut butters. Could eat a whole jar of e.g. peanut butter.
But when I think about it, could it be that I'm not trying hard enough to eliminate carbs? Because:
* With the belly pork meals, I'm having a small bit of English mustard (e.g. a level teaspoon)
* With the Mixed nuts & double cream & berries, I've often added 3g of raisins (=2g carbs) for a bit of sweetness, especially if the berries are bitter.
* Peanut butter is still 8% carbs, so who am I kidding?
Do people find that just the smallest amounts of carby additions such as English mustard ruin the 'satiety' effect of a very high fat meal?
I've been getting a bit disillusioned with the idea of keto and even had some dark chocolate today, so I'm looking for advice for types of keto food combos which strike a really good balance of being appetising, healthy but not so nice that as soon as I've finished eating it, I make some more!
I've been going very low carb and high fat for about a week, hoping that I'd experience the phenomenon that I can eat what I want and lose weight, due to the idea that one doesn't crave fatty foods as much as carby foods, and one feels more satisfied after eating fatty foods.
My experience so far is that I've been eating an awful lot of fatty food and am gaining weight.
Things I really love and can easily eat too much of:
* Belly pork with veg e.g. green breans, broccoli, asparagus.
* Mixed nuts with blueberries / raspberries / blackberries & double cream.
* Nut butters. Could eat a whole jar of e.g. peanut butter.
But when I think about it, could it be that I'm not trying hard enough to eliminate carbs? Because:
* With the belly pork meals, I'm having a small bit of English mustard (e.g. a level teaspoon)
* With the Mixed nuts & double cream & berries, I've often added 3g of raisins (=2g carbs) for a bit of sweetness, especially if the berries are bitter.
* Peanut butter is still 8% carbs, so who am I kidding?
Do people find that just the smallest amounts of carby additions such as English mustard ruin the 'satiety' effect of a very high fat meal?
I've been getting a bit disillusioned with the idea of keto and even had some dark chocolate today, so I'm looking for advice for types of keto food combos which strike a really good balance of being appetising, healthy but not so nice that as soon as I've finished eating it, I make some more!
But you can make your meals as simple or as complicated as you wish - stir fry is quick and easy and fish done in microwave or fried just takes minutes - salmon piece with some asparagus and a dollop of sour cream and fresh dill for example.That must be really convenient. Since adopting low carb, I find meals take a lot more preparation and it gets in the way of living!
Yes, those are the sorts of cooking I do. But they are nowhere near as quick as a glass of milk + some fruit + bread and peanut butter.But you can make your meals as simple or as complicated as you wish - stir fry is quick and easy and fish done in microwave or fried just takes minutes - salmon piece with some asparagus and a dollop of sour cream and fresh dill for example.
Robbity
I'm trying out chia seed puds for breakfast, good flavour, low carb 2g in what I have and it tastes good and flat BGMe too - I need to eat early and have fewer carbs for my first meal, but I have meat or eggs - a proper meal and I am not hungry for the rest of the day. It keeps my BG from continuing to rise and then going into a sharp drop, which is unpleasant and gives the feeling of hunger. With two meals spread as far apart as is convenient my BG is fairly steady.
And if you had to make the bread?Yes, those are the sorts of cooking I do. But they are nowhere near as quick as a glass of milk + some fruit + bread and peanut butter.
In the olden days when I ate bread I would have walked a very hilly 4 miles to Waitrose and back to buy the wonderful Village Bakery sourdough bread which contains nothing but organic wholemeal rye flour, water and salt. Nowadays the unavoidable cookery I am doing cuts into my exercise time. The ingenuity required to make enjoyable and nutritonally balanced meals while minimising carbs is probably good for my brain, but I'm not going to fudge the fact that it also has a downside.And if you had to make the bread?
The ingenuity required to make enjoyable and nutritonally balanced meals while minimising carbs is probably good for my brain, but I'm not going to fudge the fact that it also has a downside.
I batch cook loads of proteins and freeze in my and my hubbies portions. I defrost in cold water and then decide what I want to do with it. Lately soup I just pour some broth on the protein, add some fat, herbs, seasonings and a few chopped veg. Super simple and could make a few meals worth. I e some that and frozen them in individual servings and jus took out the night before. I keep things very simple. Protein seasoned after defrosting and added fat, avocado and a few vegThat must be really convenient. Since adopting low carb, I find meals take a lot more preparation and it gets in the way of living! Also, eating out of the house is much harder. Not sure I could follow your system though, as I am coming to the conclusion that fasting raises my bg.
Bluetit and Kristin, thanks very much for your suggestions. The thing is, any cooking takes longer than no cooking, which would be my preferred option. Timewise, I am always in the red, and sinking deeper each day. Every moment I spend on cooking or food preparation I have to try to block out the awareness that behind my back things undone are piling up: letters unopened, bed not made, laundry not washed, exercise skipped, friends and family uncontacted, on and on.
Both.You are worrying me now. What do you spend your time on? Do these things go by the board because you are lacking in energy rather than short of time?
Both.
@AdamJames
Only just seen this thread or I would have chipped in much earlier.
Please don't fall for the thinking that keto=weightloss.
That is an assumption that many people make, usually because keto=weightloss for them.
I'm always amazed to hear of people who go VLC/keto and then lose weight while eating low carb baking, regular berries, cream on everything, and unlimited meat intake. I envy them, but it certainly doesn't work that way for me.
And there is a surprisingly large number of us who don't experience that auto-keto-weightloss even when we cut out all the indulgences (like cream and occasional berries, and dark choc) that are usually permissible on a keto diet.
The longer I hang around the forum, the more I read here, and elsewhere, the more I realise that there is a sub-group of us with sufficiently deranged metabolisms and wacky hormones for whom the normal keto needs to be combined with calorie restriction too. Or even greater carb restriction. Or cutting dairy. Or restricting protein intake. Or eliminating all sweeteners. Or eliminating all carbs. Or fat fasting occasionally. Or any number of other measures which will depend on the unique 'derangement' involved.
In addition, those of us with these 'derangements' are often the ones most likely to have hair trigger metabolisms that react astonishingly quickly to reduced calories by slowing the metabolism down to reduce calorie expenditure. Someone with a 'normal' metabolism can usually count on weeks of weight loss on a calorie restricted diet before the body slows the metabolism to fit the new calorie intake. My body makes the change in less than 5 days. And I have seen numerous posts by people on this forum whose weightloss is agonisingly slow on severe calorie restriction, and who then regain rapidly afterwards.
In my case, I did 5 weeks of one meal a day Mon-Fri and 2 meals at the weekends, calories around half my usual amount, and I lost 2 pounds in 5 weeks. I don't call that sustainable. It was boring, inconvenient, tiresome, frustrating, and would mean a constant starvation diet for years. When I went back to my usual 2 meals a day, I regained those 2 pounds within a couple of days. Like a cork in a bucket my weight just bobbed back up and stayed there on double the calories. Sigh.
I now try to vary my number of meals and calorie intake daily, so that my metabolism never gets any settled pattern that it can fix on and reduce basal metabolic rate.