low carb for type one

[valceramic]

Hi there, I have just started to follow a low/medium low carb diet. Im type one.
I find that omelette with cream and cheese raised my blood sugar. Cant understand why. Any help??

 

[Oldvatr]

Hi there, I have just started to follow a low/medium low carb diet. Im type one.
I find that omelette with cream and cheese raised my blood sugar. Cant understand why. Any help??

Did you use full fat whole milk products, or was it a low fat cheese spread type? did you have a coffee or cracker with it? Eggs contain protein that can turn into glucose if your bgl is already quite low (search gluconeogenesis)

 

[valceramic]

Did you use full fat whole milk products, or was it a low fat cheese spread type? did you have a coffee or cracker with it? Eggs contain protein that can turn into glucose if your bgl is already quite low (search gluconeogenesis)

Thanks for your answer. no crackers! I didn't use milk, just very strong cheese and eggs. I do drink coffee (real and strong) one cup a day with breakfast. I had some kale as well, but not that much. my morning blood sugar was 5.6. an hour after breakfast it was 10.9. so I am puzzled.

 

[noblehead]

Thanks for your answer. no crackers! I didn't use milk, just very strong cheese and eggs. I do drink coffee (real and strong) one cup a day with breakfast. I had some kale as well, but not that much. my morning blood sugar was 5.6. an hour after breakfast it was 10.9. so I am puzzled.

Maybe try injecting ahead of your meal to reduce the postprandial spike, some of the type 1's who follow a very low-carb diet say they still have to pre-bolus just the same as they would if the meal contained carbs, I'll tag a few members who may help @SamJB @robert72 @Dillinger

 

[Oldvatr]

Thanks for your answer. no crackers! I didn't use milk, just very strong cheese and eggs. I do drink coffee (real and strong) one cup a day with breakfast. I had some kale as well, but not that much. my morning blood sugar was 5.6. an hour after breakfast it was 10.9. so I am puzzled.

Your meal does not seem to be excessive. I am a T2D, so I think this may need some input from a T1D or two. It sounds like your insulin regime may need tweaking, so I cannot advise any further. Hope you get an answer you can use soon.

 

[TorqPenderloin]

Protein converts into glucose and enters our (people with t1) blood stream a bit differently compared to people with type 2.

As @Oldvatr mentioned, studies have shown that protein can help recover from hypos in people with type 2, but it didn't necessarily equate to hyperglycemia.

In people with type 1, it can absolutely cause hyperglycemia. My understanding is that both diseases affect our glucagon response a bit differently.

As far as how to dose for it, each person is different. It's probably best I don't share my own experiences with how I bolus for protein as my situation is a bit different from many others. I do low-carb but I still produce a little bit of natural insulin which helps significantly in situations like this (I get very slow and gradual rises from protein).

 

[Mrs Vimes]

A starting point is work out how many g of protein. Divide by 2 then bolus as if it was that many carbs. Test to work out what then suits you. Also it can be a delayed spike. An omelette form exam be about 2 hours later so you have to keep an eye on it. Different protein will spike at different times. I can eat 3 eggs and no change at all.

 

[valceramic]

Thanks so much for your response. My aim is to reduce the insulin amounts, so even tho I seem to need a pre meal bolus it will be much less on the low carb diet. swings and roundabouts.

 

[noblehead]

swings and roundabouts.

and trial & error

Just keep experimenting and you'll get there.

 

[Kristin251]

Persononly I eat very low carb and MODERATE protein. Anything over about 15 g will spike me or require a second bolus about an hour later. If I took the whole bolus to cover it I would go low 1st then spike. Cheese / dairy spike me as well. The fat will also slow the spike of some of the meal.
In the morning I need a very low carb low protein high fat BF. I am very insulin resistant in the morning. Carbs and protein need to be very limited in the morning but I can ramp up as the day progresses.

 

[TorqPenderloin]

Persononly I eat very low carb and MODERATE protein. Anything over about 15 g will spike me or require a second bolus about an hour later. If I took the whole bolus to cover it I would go low 1st then spike. Cheese / dairy spike me as well. The fat will also slow the spike of some of the meal.
In the morning I need a very low carb low protein high fat BF. I am very insulin resistant in the morning. Carbs and protein need to be very limited in the morning but I can ramp up as the day progresses.

I think the protein aspect of the diet largely depends on your lean mass (muscle) and exercise levels. If I remember correctly, you're at a very low bodyweight and don't do much exercise which would make sense why too much protein could spike your levels.

In contrast, I have quite a bit more lean mass than the majority of people and I exercise frequently. If my protein intake gets too low, my body will start breaking down muscle and I can lose a pretty significant amount of weight (that I don't want to lose). To put it into perspective, I need to eat about 3000-3500 calories/day to avoid losing weight.

Bottom line, I think that's why there isn't more discussion about protein intake on a low-carb diet. It's not that it isn't important. It's that there's a ton of variation in each person's needs

 

[cz_dave]

Hi there, I have just started to follow a low/medium low carb diet. Im type one.
I find that omelette with cream and cheese raised my blood sugar. Cant understand why. Any help??

I also eat low carb. I always inject immediately before eating and typically 1,5 units. I feel my body needs a bolus, however small, even if the meal has very little carbs.

In the specific case you mentioned, the cream and cheese may have had some carbs plus there is the protein as others have explained.

Why don't you eat the same meal again and inject 1-2 units to see how it goes with insulin.

 

[Kristin251]

I think the protein aspect of the diet largely depends on your lean mass (muscle) and exercise levels. If I remember correctly, you're at a very low bodyweight and don't do much exercise which would make sense why too much protein could spike your levels.

In contrast, I have quite a bit more lean mass than the majority of people and I exercise frequently. If my protein intake gets too low, my body will start breaking down muscle and I can lose a pretty significant amount of weight (that I don't want to lose). To put it into perspective, I need to eat about 3000-3500 calories/day to avoid losing weight.

Bottom line, I think that's why there isn't more discussion about protein intake on a low-carb diet. It's not that it isn't important. It's that there's a ton of variation in each person's needs

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Agreed with all of it. I do have a low body weight and certainly not built like a brick house like you. I maintain my muscle and weight with a very small amount of protein. Since gaining muscle and weight back after DX and starting I insulin I have maitained for 2 years. I did start gaining again in sept but as you might remember I cut back on fat as well as insulin and have 2# s left. I know what you're going to say....lol. I'm not worried about it. Just don't want to gain again. I like where I am and would like the last 2 to go as an insurance policy.

 

[hels]

When you are eating it might make difference too. I'm type 1 and low carb. If I have a 3 egg omelette for breakfast I need 2 units of fast acting but if I have it for lunch/dinner would probably have 1/1.5 units.

 

[valceramic]

When you are eating it might make difference too. I'm type 1 and low carb. If I have a 3 egg omelette for breakfast I need 2 units of fast acting but if I have it for lunch/dinner would probably have 1/1.5 units.

Thanks so much for your reponse. I've tried this and my level was spot on two hours after breakfast.